Which Amiga OS Is Used Most...

[amigadave]

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Sorry to the MorphOS and Aros folks for leaving them out, just that not being a fan or user of either they kinda slipped my mind...

It is not the first time you have neglected us and probably won't be the last, but your polls that do not include us have little meaning, since they leave out such a large percentage of the remaining Amiga community.

Also, it is very annoying that you repeat this pattern over and over again, just because of your personal preferences, which IIRC are for Classic Amiga computers only, yet you always seem to remember AmigaOS4.x, which is no more related to the old Classic Amiga hardware than MorphOS2.x is.  In fact, MorphOS has been around for longer than AmigaOS4.x and had a free version for Classic Amiga computers with Phase5 PowerUp boards many years ago (10 I believe is the correct number).

If you are going to create this endless progression of polls here at Amiga.org, please try to make an attempt to include ALL of the members here, or think about moving such exclusive polls to Amigan.net instead.

Edit:  Had I known that this thread was going to turn into an opinion of what members thought was the "Best" Amiga OS, or which Amiga OS does each voter use the most, instead of how it is literally worded "Which Amiga OS is used most?", I would boycot the poll completely, as the "best" Amiga OS IMHO, or the Amiga OS I use the most often, is not listed as one of the choices.  

To me, that question means which Amiga OS is used the most by everyone in the world.  Everyone is free to interpret it any way they like, but it lessens the validity of the result when people are voting with different perceptions of what the poll is asking.  I mean really, how can 15 voters really think that AmigaOS4.1 is used more than the other Classic AmigaOS choices, unless they are thinking that the question is only for each user in their own homes, or which they think is the best Amiga OS for them?

There is enough division of this community from the past, please do not perpetuate it further by excluding half of it from your polls, or insulting us with your personal opinions on what "IS" and "IS NOT" an Amiga OS.

[amigadave]

The poll says AmigaOS..

You mean like an OS that runs Amiga programs and games?

Of course you don't!  That would be beyond your ability to reason and see the benefits of keeping what is left of the Amiga community together, instead of continuing to preach division and conflict (and jealousy).

How very sad for you!

[amigadave]

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On a side note, just before I logged in I was looking around ebay and spotted an old iMacG5 going for £250, dunno why but I ended up bidding on it and got it for £325 + £25 delivery, then I noticed the seller only live 7 miles away from me, crazy thing is he won't let me pick it up and insists on posting it and I should get it by Thursday, Gawd I could be their and back in less than 20 minutes, crazy or what...

@Franko,

That sounds like a lot of money for a G5 iMac ($565 US, what size and speed is it), but of course it depends on what the prices for such computers usually sell for in your area.  For that amount of money, I could get a Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, or even a Quad Core, Dual 2.5GHz G5 last generation PCI-e PowerMac (or a Dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac and  a 20" to 23" LCD wide-screen monitor too, with money left over).

If VAT or other import taxes were not so expensive to ship computers from the USA to the UK and EU, it would be worth the trouble to get them from here and ship them over the Atlantic.  Anyone want to go into partnership of selling of old computers in the UK and EU?  I will be the source and responsible for finding what customers want here in the States, Canada, or Mexico and then ship them to you, or directly to the customer's address.  There was a month or two where the prices for G4 and G5 PowerMacs had fallen to really low prices just a few weeks ago, but now prices seem to have crept back up a bit, but not too much and certainly not nearly as much as the amount Franko just spent on his G5 iMac (sorry, don't mean to run it in).  Six weeks ago I could have purchased a Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac w/2-4gb RAM & 250-500gb hdd capacity for about $390 to $475, a top of the G5 range Quad Core, Dual 2.5GHz G5 PowerMac w/PCI-e slots & 2-8gb RAM for about $450 to $575 and Dual 1.25GHz, or 1.42GHz G4 PowerMacs for about $75 to $125, or less.  If you can find dead PPC Mac computers that you want over there that still have nice cases and other peripherals, I could get just the motherboards and CPU units here and save a lot on cheaper shipping costs.  Then I would part out the rest of the computer here, the heavy parts that don't make sense to ship overseas.

[amigadave]

@ amigadave

First off, I didn't deliberately neglect you or anyone else, read the thread and you shall see my answers to that already.

If you find it annoying then sorry but what my own personal preferences and choices are have nothing whatsoever to do with you. If you don't like what I have to say or take part in polls that I post then just ignore them or start your own polls that you would feel suit your personal choices & opinions better. No one is forcing you to take part in them and no one is forcing you to read my posts. If I see a poll that if feel doesn't include or have an interest for my own choices or preferences then I simply don't take part in it, I certainly don't go whining to the polls creator that they left me out.

There is an option on this site to block or ignore what a particular person posts so perhaps you should put me on that list as others have done, then anything I have to say will not cause offense or upset you.

If other members wish to express their opinions on what they think is the best OS version then that is their own free choice and I'm not complaining that they do so and I'm certainly not responsible for what other members may post.

As for insulting you with my own personal opinions then that really is just pathetic to be perfectly honest with you, I may not like what your opinions are but I don't go on a rant telling you so. If I really did have an issue with you about something you had to say then I would have the decency to PM you about it first. As you chose to take this course of action I am simply responding in kind in this case.

As for taking my 'exclusive polls' elsewhere, let me make this perfectly clear to you, I don't take kindly to someone whom I don't even know telling me what to do in public and in such an offensive manner as you have chosen to do here, so if you would be so kind in future to take up any issues you have with me by PM then I can assure you you will receive from me the reply you deserve.

As for why you have chosen to do this I have no idea, but I consider myself a very reasonable and carefree type of person so if you wish to discuss this further in a more civil manner then feel free to PM me, if not then so be it. I wont be putting you on my ignore list but shall read your future posts but choose not respond to them in any way if this is the kind of silly & childish attitude which you have displayed here is all you have to say in future.

Yours Sincerely

Frank Spiers

Replied to via PMail, as requested.

[amigadave]

@ amigadave

It's an iMacG5 PPC iSight 2.1Ghz 20" model as I got for £325 that's the best deal I've seen in months on ebay, just wish I could have collected it as the seller only lives 7 miles away but he said no and it's costing me another £25 shipping and I have to wait till Thurday to get it, crazy or what...

here's a link to the current ones on ebay

UK Ebay Prices For iMacs

If you keep your eye on them you'll see the silly prices they go for over here and it's always within the last 15 minutes of the sale that thing go mad.

But thats the problem here for folk like myself, if you really want it it's going to cost you...

(Wish I could get hold of them at the prices you have in the States, could be even richer than I already am...   )

I can only sympathize with you and agree that if you want something and don't want to wait while looking around for better prices, eBay will get you where it hurts (the wallet) every time.  The best price I could find here for the same computer as yours on eBay was about $350 to $420.  Shipping is expensive due to the size and weight of such computers, so buying here and sending it there is not really an option for these models, but if you ever need parts for yours, that is another story.

That is a nice computer for web browsing, Skype calls, iChat with family and friends, listening to music and watching movies/dvd's.  When my 80+ year old Dad wanted a new computer a couple of years ago, my sisters and I talked him into buying a used 17-inch G5 iMac from eBay USA, instead of buying a new eMachine with no monitor or webcam, for about the same price.  He loves it and is very happy with the switch from Windows98 to MacOSX.  You will now have a much better iMac than your 800MHz G4 iMac. Since one sister lives near Auckland, NZ, my Dad likes using the iSight and iChat to see and talk to her from time to time.

If yours is the model I think it is, it should have an ATI X600 graphics card, which gives you a better chance than models with NVidia graphics cards, for a possibility of MorphOS2.x being ported to it some day in the distant future (just in case you want to see what it looks and feels like, the demo is always free, but time limited to 30 minutes before a reboot is needed to give you full speed again).  One drawback of getting the G5 model of iMac, instead of the newer Intel Core2Duo models is that the Intel models run WinUAE and Amiga emulation much better than the G5 and E-UAE.

Lastly, I am usually very wary of eBay sellers that live so close by, but still refuse to allow you to pick up your won auctions in person.  It can be nothing more sinister than the seller not wanting to bother with trying to arrange a time to meet with you, or the seller has had bad luck in the past where the buyer changes his/her mind after seeing the item in person, or worst case, the G5 iMac is in bad physical condition (or does not work at all) and the seller does not want you to know where he/she lives after the sale, so you can't bother him/her afterward and try to get a refund, or some kind of compensation to resolve a less than perfect, or less than described item.  Hopefully you won't have any such problem, but I know how you feel when the seller won't allow you to pick up your item, no matter how close you are to them and you are forced to pay the shipping.  Another reason that some sellers will not allow local pick up of your won auction item is because they have added a few pound/dollars/euros to the shipping cost to pay them for their time to box it up and take it to the shipping company and they might not want to lose that few extra dollars/pounds/euros because they did not get as much from the auction as they would have liked to get.

Good luck with your new computer purchase.  Now what are you going to do with that G4 iMac 800MHz?  It has a very unique case and monitor design, some hate it and others love it.  Too bad it could not run MorphOS2.x for you due to the graphics card inside it as well as other drivers probably.  800MHz G4 is plenty fast for MorphOS2.6 and you could have gotten some good use from it for a few more years.

[amigadave]

Three votes have been recast from M68K AmigaOS versions to MorphOS. Anybody else want to change their mind?

Yes.  You could guess which one I want my vote changed to, but I'll forget about my sarcasm for the moment and just ask you to change it to MorphOS.