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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 08, 2008, 05:37:27 AM »
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Yeh, Trolls, Whats a person to do? Forget about it.

Chris


Yeah, I am done with that lying, waste of time, fool that can't even get his facts straight.

It is a joke that he thinks he is here to save all our poor souls from our wayward path. :lol:

If he had read any of my other 1650+ posts here on these forums, he would know that I am not one of the blind zealots of the Amiga community, but he has a burr up his arse and won't get up to dig it out and pull his head out with it.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2008, 06:18:17 AM »
"Lying?"

Misquoting me, then accusing me of the mistake you made.  I received no apology.

"Why?"

I have answered you several times, but you don't like the answers, so you ignore it and go on spreading your misinformation to deflect what I am saying.

"....." & "phttt"

Great responses to questions or statements that you can't deal with. (Snide or Sarcastic, I don't care what you think by now)

When AROS, AmigaOS4.x, Haiku, or any other OS shows me something that I want to use and can't get on any other OS, I will be glad to support them.  Until then, I have chosen MorphOS2.x as the OS I will support, as well as the MiniMig and NatAmi projects.  I will do what ever I can to move MOS2.x forward, until something so amazing comes along to replace it (for me).

The next OS I have been writing about is the next quantum leap above where we are now with any OS, but that leap will mean different things to you than it does to me because you are so far off from understanding where I am coming from.  Hence, when a shift of paradigm comes for me, you may not even recognize or acknowledge it.  I don't want the next Windows OS, I want the next AmigaOS, and yes, I don't care what it is called, but, as I have stated before, I would prefer an Open Source OS called Amiga with AInc. dead, buried and forgotten.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2008, 07:45:50 PM »
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Sounds to me that Amiga for you has become something of a holy grail, less about a computer and more of an ideal then anything tangible. Not a bad way to look at things I suppose.

Guess I was wrong about you afterall.


Thank you for considering that I might not be the fool you thought I was, or your enemy.

I am neither.

I would not exactly put it the way you did, the Amiga is not a Holy Grail for me, but it is an ideal of computing elegance & genius that should have succeeded, but did not.

For me the next "Big Step" in computing is not here yet.  Think of something closer to the HAL9000 from Stanley Kubrick's "2001 - A Space Odyssey".  The shrinking and making more portable of technology that we already have does not "float-my-boat", though it is convenient and a bit interesting.  I hope I am around to see the next leap forward in computing, by my standards.  It will be fun to interact with a certain level of artificial intelligence far beyond what we have today in appliances, robotics, transportation, commerce, etc.  I think the next step in that direction will be the continuing work on improving voice recognition for input. Typing will soon no longer be the primary method of computer input everywhere.  I already talk to the computer in my car.

For now I am content to tinker with my old Classic Amigas and actively support my recent choice of Amiga-Like OSes with cash, code and what ever else I can help with.  I try to read about other happenings in the computer world, but I know if anything really interesting happens and I miss seeing it at first, it will trickle down to me eventually.

Although I can be very persistent and loud in expressing my opinion from time to time, I get the loudest when I feel other's opinions might be getting squashed or trampled.  It is just an annoying trait of mine.

I would like to apologize to everyone who has witnessed my frustration in this thread at trying to express my POV and the retaliation of harsh words which occurred.  I wish I could say it will be the last time it will ever happen. I really wish it would be, but I know myself too well.

Edit: I am descended from the British, English and Welsh.  My family tree includes two very famous Englishmen, Winston Churchill and Walt Disney.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 03:23:29 AM »
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Think of something closer to the HAL9000 from Stanley Kubrick's "2001 - A Space Odyssey".


Ah, so, no memory protection there then either - bonus being that when it guru's it'll blooter ya  ;-)

Seriously though, not a bad thing I suppose, AI is definately cool though I'm none too sure as to how far along such research is at the moment. The last AI stuff I played with was, whilst quite clever not something that'd beat a turing test.


My memory isn't protected, why should I require my computer to have it's memory protected?  :lol:

I know that unless the medical profession comes up with some real miracle, I won't see HAL9000, but I do think I will be around to see computers in more and more consumer items I use every day.  

I can envision having fingerprint and/or voice recognition open the door to my home for me, lighting turned on and off, or adjusted by voice commands as well as what is already available with motion sensors, things like that, which are already possible now, but will be refined and commonplace in a few years.  I already have some Amiga hardware and software stashed somewhere that is designed for home automation, that I plan on setting up soon.  The other home automation ideas will come as my programming skill improve, but it will be simple stuff and I expect commercial products to expand much faster than my automation programming skills.

So that is what I was thinking of when I referenced the HAL9000.  That plus the chess games of course.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 08:40:02 AM »
@the_leander,

Seems your wish has been answered.  He is posting all over the place now (I don't know anything about your "invited one").
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2008, 08:56:24 AM »
This thread is getting really entertaining!   :flame:   :pissed:  :destroy:   :popcorn:  :pint:

All Brit's are Europeans, but not all Europeans are Brit's.

Being European does not make someone living in the British Isles any less British, or English.  If asked, it make perfect sense for them to say they are British, or English, or Welsh, or Irish, but not European, just as someone living in Italy would say they are Italian, or a man living in Spain would answer that they are Spanish.

It is also entertaining to see the British superiority complex is still alive and well, and understandable that the other "Europeans" are offended by such a notion, just as many cultures are offended or just sick of the many Americans that project a similar superiority attitude toward any other cultures.

I extremely dislike any disrespect for any culture, or race and strive to communicate to people from other countries that not all Americans are as arrogant and ignorant as the current US president.  I think his actions have created a new low in history for how Americans are perceived by other nations and cultures.  :-(
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2008, 11:29:19 AM »
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AmiBoy wrote:
I dont think I have ever seen a thread go more of topic than this one!

NatAmi any good? - What IS Amiga - I know more about Amiga than you! - Can we get modern features into AOS? - I am British!

Been a great read though even if I ave forgotten about 75% of it!


Good point! Now it is off to which side of the road we drive on. :lol:
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2008, 11:46:36 AM »
When I visited London it was clear that it did not matter what side of the road drivers were supposed to drive on, after they had enough time after work to have a few drinks they just used which ever side they fancied at the moment.

I never did so much walking in my life and had no desire to rent a car there.  In New Zealand however, I was forced to rent a car because the amount of traveling to be done for the week was very extensive.  I must say I am quite proud of myself for coming back alive and without having killed a single cow or sheep.  (New Zealand = Most Beautiful Place on Earth)
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