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Who here is thinking of getting a new cell phone on July 11th?

Half the price and twice the speed for the new Apple iPhone is very tempting for me, I just wish that it would work on my phone provider of choice "Verizon", as they have the best coverage in my area.

My laptop of choice is a MacBook, I have an Intel MacMini as my Carputer in my Dodge Nitro R/T 4x4 (Sunburst Orange and gorgeous, full black leather interior w/heated front seats, 20" chrome wheels, bought before I was forced to retire), my monsters sized Dell XPS tower with WindowsXP Media Edition will be converted to a Hack-Intosh with Parallels, or Boot Camp as soon as I can figure out how to do it safely.

I am impressed with the world of "Mac" and think that Apple has done a great job at creating some innovative products and the most usable - user friendly OS on the planet.

Amiga for fun and old school video editing, Mac for everything else would be great for me.  I would love to dump MS Windows forever, I just hate the thought of learning another CAD program and still have not found a decent navigation program for the Mac.  I just wish that the Mac had more market share to get more developers and provide ALL the programs on the Mac that are available for Windows.

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Nlandas wrote:
    Is that Troll bait? Because I for one won't own a product by Apple if they paid me. Steve Jobs is far worse than Bill Gates.

I am quite happy with my free with contract Treo.

Nooooooo!  I don't troll here or anywhere other than Big Bear Lake for trout.

Why so much dislike for Apple products and how can you compare Steve Jobs with Bill Gates?  Steve is an a$$h0le and Apple products are over priced, but Bill Gates is a criminal and has harmed the entire computer community in so many ways for so many years, there is no comparison.  Where would we be today if DOS and Windows had not held back innovation and creativity by killing dozens, if not hundreds of competing companies with unethical and many times illegal business practices?  What would computing be like if we had choices and developers were free to create without being forced to use DOS/Windows crippled tools because there was no other financially viable choice to make?

Apple is not a perfect choice, but it is light years ahead of anything that MS has to offer.

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Well, I have never seen a crash on any of my Macs, but I have only been using Mac devices since my first Mac, a G4 Powerbook of a few years ago.

When it comes to computers, I don't mind tinkering with my Amigas and I know that there is no support from anyone except the community and my own brain.  But when it comes to a mainstream computer that I want to use for working, I want and expect it to work just like every other appliance in my home, just like my TV, phone, refrigerator, etc.  I just want to plug it in and use it for what it is intended.  With a Mac, that is what happens, it just works.  It finds network wifi for me and the OSX interface is more intuitive IMHO than Windows will ever be.  As for Linux and its cousins, I am all for them and hope that they will mature some day to be useful to people in general and not just geeks and nerds that go under the hood and make it work the way they want, or the way it should without any intervention.

Some people don't like Macs because Apple is too controlling and limiting in the way they work.  I happen to like the direction Apple has gone and love that their products work so well together, so I like the fact that an iPhone will integrate with my laptop, Carputer and iPod and hopefully some day with my Dell tower.  All without me having to be an expert at configuring each device to recognize each other.

It just works, so it works for me.

I don't have enough hours in the day to do all the tinkering I want to do on my Amiga collection, so why would I want to have to tinker with my other devices.

That is me, others will feel much differently and the Mac experience is not for you.

By the way, Palm comes in a close second in my opinion.

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@Nlandas,

You sound like someone that just has an axe to grind with Apple and would not be satisfied with anything they do, hence your comments are not objective.  You don't like Apple and Steve Jobs, fine, that is your choice, but you are not going to convince me that Apple/Steve Jobs is evil and must be avoided in all instances.

@Oliver,

I agree that Apple products are not for everyone, and particularly not for the geek squad that has the technical smarts to want low level control of every electronic gadget they own, but you are in the minority and most people want Apple or Microsoft to control how their computers, printers, mp3 players, stereos, video cameras, still digital cameras, TVs, etc. work and communicate with each other.  As I wrote before, most of us just want all those items to work as advertized without hardly any user intervention.  We just want to use them without having to struggle configuring this or that to enjoy them or accomplish a task that the tool was intended to do for us.

Look at why most of the world has chose an inferior product like Windows for so long.  Partly it was that they could not cope with the alternatives that took more knowledge and expertise that only people like yourself had learned.  If everyone was like you, Linux would have over taken Windows by now.  It looks just as nice as Windows, works with most hardware, but not all, provides almost all the functionality of Windows and it is FREE


Apple understands the fact that most people don't want to tinker with and configure their computers and they cater to that, they have no intention of trying to change to satisfy the small group of computer users that want to alter the way the system works.  They are targeting the masses and use any marketing they can to attract more market share, including claims that are not completely accurate at times, but that is true of almost every company out there of any kind, they all exaggerate some time.  Don't blame them for being better at marketing lies to those that don't know better.

Back on topic, I think the 3G iPhone looks like a great product and plan to get one as soon as I can because I think it will fit well into my lifestyle and work well with my laptop, iPod, Carputer and soon my Dell tower if I can Hack-intosh it, or as the iPhone comes standard, I believe it will still integrate with a Windows PC as well as my other Macs.  As I stated before, I want simplicity and ease of use when it comes to my cell phone and mobile PDA/mp3 player/web enabled device.  I have not seen or heard of any other product that does what the 3G iPhone can, so it is an easy decision for me, specially with the price drop that puts it at or below other smart phones out there.