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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« on: May 20, 2008, 09:36:11 AM »
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If there is, I'm first in the list to buy this  :-D

Or even better, an atx  compliant version of this.


I believe the whole point is to stay with the A1000 case, the TRUE Amiga!

I wish they were for sale, but fear that they never will. I am actually surprised that he is still working on improving his design.  I think I read that his first design cost him thousands to produce, I think around $10,000 to design and manufacture the prototype.  Maybe this second (or is it third) version is less costly, I do not know.  But I would love to have one, the A1000 is the best!
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2008, 09:56:28 PM »
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trekiej wrote:
I hope this is not too off topic.
Do you think Clone-A will get made into an ASIC for direct chip replacement?
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Yes, I think that is the goal of the project.  Whether it happens or not is another story, but it would be nice for nostalgic tinkerers of the future to be able to build their very own cycle exact Amiga clone computers.

With all that is being learned by Clone-A, Minimig and NatAmi projects, I hope it is being documented well so the expertise and knowledge is not lost for a second time.
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 01:20:46 AM »
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I was wondering, how many people would be interested in getting one of these?
If enough of us are interested, I am sure the pbc boards could be bought at a reasonable price (2-300 us$)


I have an extra dead A1000 that I could steal parts from and would love to get one of these boards.  I know that it also needs parts from other Amiga models (like an A3000 perhaps), but I am sure I could find the other parts somewhere.

If someone finds a PCB manufacturer that can do a small run that is not ungodly expensive, count me in!
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 04:30:33 AM »
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I wonder if Acube could be of assistance here.


I doubt it as a number of parts must be harvested from other Amigas in addition to the A1000 I think and most are not installed in a socket, so Acube would have to get these in mass quantities, or have each user that wants a board to find and send to them so they could solder them on to the new mobo.

I don't see how that could work?
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 07:27:30 AM »
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gba1000 rev01 with early prototype graphiccard


Is this new graphic card connected to the GB A1000 flicker fixer output, so that native screens can be passed through and PicassoII screens will be displayed through the same connector for a one monitor solution?  That is what it looks like and I hope that is true.  Does this PicassoII clone have 2mb or 4mb video RAM?

It will be a great addition to the GB A1000 and I hope most of the 59 builders will also choose to sign up to have one of these graphics cards produced just like our mobo's.
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2008, 05:00:13 PM »
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I think the MiniMig is great, I think the new A1000 replacement board is great..but I ask WHY..and have not gotten a straight answer.........

I have been on the PCB manufacuring end of things..its a huge task (re) designing a circuit board and costly, and for what??  Perhaps the designer of the new A1000 board could chime in here, as well as the MiniMig guy..
I ask a simple question WHY?


I doubt that Georg or Dennis will take any of their valuable time to respond to your questions, but I will attempt to give you a simple answer to your "simple question WHY?"

First, the MiniMig was started as a project just to see if Dennis could do it, I mean put all the Amiga custom chip functionality into one FPGA.  Once he had succeeded he decided to reduce the size and put it all on just one board to create a small, low cost replacement of the A1000/A500 OCS Amiga.  There was so much interest in his work, he finally agreed to release it as open source.  So the WHY of the MiniMig in my opinion is two fold.  1. to prove it could be done. 2. to allow hobbyists the ability to create their own Amiga clone with their own hands.  It is unclear to me if the MiniMig inspired the NatAmi project, or if the NatAmi was perceived before the MiniMig was announced, but it could be a third point of praise for the MiniMig, that it has inspired others to create other new projects related to the Amiga experience.  Lastly, the MiniMig is current hardware to run nostalgic software and eventually some years down the road it will be more difficult to find the original hardware. (that was not nearly as simple as I intended)

Now for the GB A1000 replacement board, the developer/hardware designer obviously likes the original Amiga case design for his own reasons.  There are many German fans of the A1k as can be seen by the website dedicated to it, the Phoenix A1000 replacement board that was revived in 2005 and now with the GB A1000 board and continued development of peripherals for both.  The Phoenix and the GB A1000 boards provide a huge increase in performance and functionality for the A1000 computer that so many of us are very fond of.  The "WHY" is because we enjoy and appreciate the design of the A1000 and want to continue using one.  The GB A1000 allows us a way to use them for more things than would be possible otherwise.

As for the Amiga community being divided, that has been a fact of life for many years.  There just has not been any ONE thing to come along that has caught the imagination of all of us to work together on, and there probably never will be, but most of us are perfectly capable of being interested in and supporting many different Amiga projects at once.

If all Amiga enthusiasts were the same, maybe we would all be supporting AROS and it would actually be able to run all the older Amiga software and have a whole raft of new AROS software to run as well, or 15,000 A1's would have been produced and sold instead of the few hundred.
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2008, 05:49:48 PM »
@Vlabguy1,

Join the NatAmi team and help make the impossible become reality.  Or if that is not to your liking there is the MorphOS, or AROS camps.  AOS4 is so tied up in legal crap, I can't recommend anyone joining work on it, unless you can complete the Moana project and get it running on any/all PPC Mac hardware. :-D
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 08:16:17 AM »
@Vlabguy1,

If that is all you really want, run WinUAE and get a Catweasle card to allow use of an Amiga keyboard and joysticks/mouse.

AmigaOS 1.0 to 3.9 has been running on current x86 hardware for years now, and running quite well I might add.

I don't know what runs on AROS, but until it can run everything WinUAE can and do it seamlessly, I am not really interested in it either.
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