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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« on: March 21, 2008, 02:58:47 AM »
Well, since Hi-Toro decided to choose a name that would come before "Apple" in choosing "Amiga" (plus it was a friendly term), we should choose another name that would come before (or maybe AFTER) Amiga, such as "All That & A Bag Of Chips", or "Ajax", or "Aim-High", or "Ahh-Nuts!", or "Agate", or "After-The-Fall-of-C=", or "Aerobic-Energy" and rename Workbench "Oxygen"  :lol:

I think you get my drift.  At any rate, I would be interested in joining such consortium.  Put my name on a list.
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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 08:20:16 AM »
I would love to see a group formed that is interested in creating what the Amiga should have evolved into over the years.  A new computer design that uses the latest hardware components available at the moment the group chooses to finalize the design specification.

It should do High Definition TV, so new 3rd party add-on hardware that interfaces with the new TV standard(s) can be invented and run on this new computer just like the Video Toaster did in the A2000 at first.  It has to hookup to new TVs, DVD players and HD-DVD/BlueRay DVD players with ease. Genlocking with those new TV standard pieces of equipment should be standard.

Any of today's top of the line graphic cards will provide more than enough processing power for games and applications for years to come, IF the same efficient principles that created the original Amiga are used to design the new system.

Use AmigaOS4 or MorphOS2.x as a base model of our beloved original AmigaOS and build on that to create the OS for the new computer I will call MorMiga just for fun in the rest of this post.  Keep the principals that make these two examples different than all the other OSes, keep them small and efficient, true multitasking, but move the bar all the way to the top and be the first OS that truly takes advantage of Quad or Octuple Core CPUs.  If we can keep the compatibility that is currently available in AmigaOS4 and/or MorphOS, great!  If not create emulation that is as good or better than what is currently available with WinUAE.  Keeping compatible so most or all of the legacy Amiga software can be used and enjoyed is key to success until new applications, tools, utilities and games are created for the MorMiga.  Design the new MorMigaOS so that almost anyone that has the desire to be creative, can produce their own applications and games for MorMiga, this will bring back the glory days when there were thousands of people developing on the Amiga.  A toolkit should be provided with the MorMigaOS that is easy enough that a 10 year old could use it.

Invent a new sound chip like the SuperPaula that I have seen discussed on these forums, or choose a current top of the line sound card to handle all MorMiga sound duties.

Write driver(s) for at least one DVD writer, or better yet, make that a BluRay writer/reader/player.

The Graphics and Sound cards should act exactly like the original Amigas custom chips did, only providing the fantastic performance difference that is available today.

It would be nice to include a 880kb/1.76mb floppy drive and build adf reading/writing software into the MorMigaOS.  Yes, floppy disks and drives are DEAD, but they are a big part of the MorMiga's past, and with the intent to provide the best ever emulation and/or legacy compatibility, including the floppy drive and software make sense.

There is much more to add, but I will stop here and just say that I am sure I am not alone in dreaming of a new computer that would be a worthy successor to the Amiga line of computers.  Something that should have been, IF ONLY ....... (fill in the rest of the sentence with what ever you have always thought concerning the sad direction the Amiga was taken, instead of what should have been).  Who knows what might have been, if Microsoft had not dominated the market the way that they did so soon, or if Commodore had not trashed the chances the Amiga ever had, because of poor, or non-existant marketing, late and hobbled by cost concerns development decisions, too much "IN" fighting, inside Commodore, etc.

All a dream, yes, probably.  Where would the money come from and who would do all the development work?  It is my hope that the remaining Amiga community would join together and do this for themselves, for it is surely never going to happen by anyone else's hand!  If we are going to dream, why not dream BIG!  With the current state of the Amiga community, recent developments of MiniMig, NatAmi, CloneA, and the increased interest created by them all, I think that this highly improbable proposal could be remarkable possibility.  Only Amiga made it possible in the past.  Only the Amiga community makes it possible in the future.

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 03:48:30 PM »
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@amigadave

That's a very nice little fantasy... But it's not realistic, if the idea of an Amiga is to be real, we need to decide exactly what we want to acheive and why.

I've been here before 5 years ago, so I have no desire to rehash my old OpenAMiGA spec...

But think about it... A reasonable goal would be to create an opensource platform totally compatible with the Amiga500 with the intention of perhaps building an all in one games console... For example.

This is both achieveable and realistic, the minimig needs bug fixes and cost reduction, Aros needs the 68k port to be brought back uptodate (but we would only need 1.3 compatibility)... So there is a lot of work to do, but everything needed is already there. If this can be done then more advanced plans can be made.


My thoughts are a fantasy to most, but could be a possibility to many remaining Amiga fans.  Your idea could be a step along the way to something better.  My point is that we, the Amiga community, cannot and should not wait any longer for companies to come up with the next Amiga, or Amiga-Like computer hardware design.  With the advancements provided with projects like MorphOS, Minimig, NatAmi & CloneA, it is clear that it IS possible for the community to take charge of our future and move forward in spite of all the lies we have been fed by Hyperion and Amiga Inc.

Let's bring the community together again.  The Amiga was/is about all the so very talented, passionate, programmers and users that made/make the Amiga community the best and kept the Amiga alive long after C= folded.  It is time to unite under one common goal and work together.
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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 04:33:26 PM »
@bloodline,

Yes, I agree with most all you wrote, except I don't agree that AROS is the only answer.  

My problem with AROS is that the developers of it did not aim high enough and have still not integrated simple, no hassle, backward compatibility with the thousands of legacy Amiga applications and games. Those old applications and games are all we have now, other than a handful of programs and only a very few games that have been written for PPC only.

What I mean when I say did not aim high enough is, yes, I want some familiarity with the older Amiga API and interface, but there does not seem to be anything in AROS to excite and inspire more programmers to join and complete the project years ago.  Where is the "WOW" factor that makes anyone really want AROS.  I guess what I am trying to say (again) is that I want what the Amiga should have evolved into, if C= had not held back funding and further development that would have kept the Amiga ahead of the pack where it always should have been.
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