Amiga OS 5 prediction

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downix wrote:
Hey wait a second.  What if that is exactly what they're doing, taking OS 3.1 (or OS 4.0?) and AmigaOS XL'ing it on top of QNX?  Development time would be ludicrusly short for a new OS.  Performance would be solid enough to be competitive.  *and* it could migrate to other embeddable CPU's rapidly.  They would, actually, have Amiga "Anywhere".

Even though I dislike downix for his condescending remarks to me and others in the past, I totally agree with him on his statement above.  I like QNX and believe Dan Dodge specifically is a stand-up kind of guy who has a great track record and who was genuinely interested in seeing the Amiga OS with a QNX kernel succeed.  It would be great if the next Amiga OS was done by, or with QNX!

That would be a WIN - WIN situation for all involved parties (except perhaps Hyperion and the OS4 people, which I have never bought into anyway)

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@downix,

Keep it up, this is the direction Amiga should be going, and now that QNX is open source, I don't see why the Amiga community couldn't push this idea forward, with, or without Amiga Inc.

There is no law that says the community can't create an Amiga compatible new OS based on the open source QNX kernel, is there?

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@BooBoo1200 and Bamiga2002,

I must disagree.  What you are describing will be no different than what I and downix are suggesting.

Amiga Inc., or the Amiga Community via Open Source, or a combination of both should build a brand new AmigaOS on top of QNX.  QNX provides the glue to access at low level the graphics and sound card chips, the sata hd controller, usb, bluetooth, etc. Amiga Inc., and/or Amiga Community provide the look & feel, and compatibility to legacy Amiga programs, while making improvements to the overall OS functions where ever possible as well.  Like mentioned before, QNX already runs on so many different CPUs and it can scale from cell phone size devices, all the way up to network servers and beyond.

I can't for the life of me see an advantage for Amiga Inc., or the community to start from scratch in building a new OS.  Using QNX as a base starting point will speed development time by years, not just months of work.

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eniac wrote:
I think everyone is rite in saying it needs to be different or  offer something linux and windows cant....

I really really think apple is a piss weak competitor and if someone had the vision, the smarts and the capital to make it happen, they could knock apple over and take 2nd place relatively easy......

At first read I was going to fire off some real opposition to eniac's message above, but after thinking about it longer, I can't work up any concrete facts or spur my conviction to oppose the basics of what he is trying to say.

I think people in general are starting to regret that Microsoft holds such a monopoly and they are also starting to realize that it has stifled innovation and creativity.  That may contribute in small part to the Mac's growing market share and popularity and increased interest in Linux and other alternatives.  I happen to like the Mac and think it will be even better when Leopard is released in a few days, but I will admit that there is still a huge amount of room for improvement.  Someday the mighty will fall and someone else with a truly innovative idea will be able to inspire the masses to change and move away from what Windows users have been suffering with for so many years.

It may still take a few years before a change comes, but I agree it is inevitable.  I can only dream that the name associated with the change when it ultimately comes will begin and end with the letter "A".  Dreams are free and everyone should follow their own.  A new Amiga will have to provide a change so huge, a shift in the paradigm, on the order of several magnitudes beyond what is typical in the PC world now, even more so than the original Amiga did in comparison to the first PCs, for it to succeed.

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gdanko wrote:
An Amiga skin still isn't an Amiga :-) AROS + integrated EUAE is the future.

We could argue all day and night for months about what is and is not an Amiga, or the what the next Amiga should be.  For me, AROS and EUAE is not it.  If it is for you, be happy and contribute to that direction.  When it is perfected to the point that the integrated EUAE is completely invisible to the user and it has at least 50% of the 3rd party programmers that the original Amiga had in 1987, or 1988, then I will take another look at AROS.  I am hoping for something 100 times better, something that will blow me away like the original A1000 did when I first saw it.