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Re: If someone stole my Visa Electron...
« on: February 04, 2007, 07:06:17 PM »
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Re: If someone stole my Visa Electron...
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2007, 08:59:55 PM »
Oh I see.

Well, speaking of credit and cards and things, lemme tell you all a story.
Draw up close, kids and listen to Uncle X-ray...

When I was working on minimum wage back in 1990 in Dorset (£2.25 per hour IIRC) I was paid weekly in cash. I never had a bank account because my whole aim in life was simply to save enough money to buy an A500 (which I eventually did). It was a silly thing, not to open an account. Because:

Fast forward to 1995. I had studied radiography in South Africa and came back to the UK to seek my fortune. But...nobody wanted to know me (none of the banks that is). Even though I had about £4000 that I could deposit straight away, I couldn't open the account because I didn't have an address and utility bills to prove that I wasn't Al Capone's great grandson. Fortunately the landlady had a contact at RBS and when I went to see him, he opened a very basic current account for me. That's all I could get.
When I left the UK at the end of 1996 I had the good sense not to close that account. I kept it open and came back to seek my fortune (thus far not found) in the year 2000. I didn't have much money when I arrived (less than £1000) but I had organised a job pretty sharpish before I got on the plane ;)
So after a few months working I was able to go in and ask for a savings account with better interest. They saw I had been a customer of theirs for some time and gave me another card.

But what I really wanted was a credit card. I asked RBS for a credit card and they said I need to provide a bank statement and a utility bill. I said cool, here are all my RBS statements going back quite a while and here is a direct debit notice from one of my board registrations.

You know what they said? They said I can't provide a statement from the same bank at which I am applying for the credit card!
I said wtf man, you know me. Are you trying to say I have this current account under dubious circumstances?
They weren't interested. They said I can't do that, I must produce another bank's statement. When I asked them if the credit card division was the same as the savings account division, they said no, they are separate entities. I said what's the problem then? They couldn't explain, all they said was no. You know the attitude "The computer says no"

Fine.

I applied for a Capital One card and they gave me the lowest of the low with a credit limit of about £200. Well it was better than nothing and I made sure I used that, but also paid the account off in full before they could charge me interest. Steadily the credit limit was increased and they gave me a better deal.

Now this is where it gets interesting. After the very first payment I made via RBS cheque to Capital One, I got a letter from RBS offering me a credit card.

Wtf, eh?

You know what I think...they keep track of who your payees are and use that for cold calling. Ever since I have had that Capital One card, I have had RBS trying to crawl up my arse with all sorts of tempting offers. I have had them phoning me, writing to me, sending offers in the mail, you name it.
And I have said no each time. Why? Because when I needed their credit card they wouldn't give it to me. And I had not established any kind of extra trustworthiness in the interim. So they can stick their credit card.

And that's my story for you. It has taken a while, but I have now built up a decent credit history. Of course I had good credit history in South Africa but that doesn't count. I don't own any property and I don't have a lot of money but my credit limit is ten times better now.

The secret is: paying on time and paying it all if possible. To be honest I don't use the credit card in a way that the bank can milk me. It is a convenient way to pay for online purchases and that is why I like it.

 

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Re: If someone stole my Visa Electron...
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2007, 09:01:53 PM »
That's a great 'train' of thought old bean  :lol:
 

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Re: If someone stole my Visa Electron...
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2007, 07:13:17 AM »
@ PMC

You're on, pal. I just gotta get February out the way, then we meet in early March if that's okay with you.
 

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Re: If someone stole my Visa Electron...
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2007, 07:28:59 AM »
I swear these banks must think we are all thick or something.

I got a call last year about an exciting new upgrade to my account. They wanted me to a check out the literature and asked if they could send it. They gave me a very abstract idea of what the benefits would be.
So I said yes, bring it on.

Okay.
So the literature arrived in the mail. I checked it out. They wanted to charge me £120 a year to upgrade my account so that I could take advantage of travel discounts, discounts when eating out, travel insurance discounts etc
So I added it up. If I made use of ALL the discounts I would be ahead by about £20 at the end of the year (in other words I would have paid £120 and received £140 worth of services).
But here is the catch: I am never going to use all those benefits, because it would mean I would have to travel like crazy. I doubt anybody would use those them all. When I looked through the list, only dining out would have any benefit to me. And even then the benefit I would get would amount to about £40 in discounts.
And then I would have to pay £80 for that facility.
I brought that up with the customer services advisor but of course they didn't have an answer for me.

The least they could do is nibble my ear when making me such an offer. Because I like a bit of passion when I'm being screwed over.