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Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« on: July 10, 2012, 04:27:13 AM »
I got my 80Mhz 060 back from Poland. It is quick as can be, but...

When ever I am in double scan mode or have another program like Ocamed ss open, the screen dragging process becomes slow and cumbersom.

Anyone know what causes this?
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 10:46:55 PM »
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2012, 11:03:23 PM »
Sorry yes, first off I meant Window resize and not screen.

Secondly I am on a 1200, basic 3.1 install with the proper Apollo libs.

MCP and FBlit are the only additional Items I have loaded atm.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 12:08:32 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;699692
Although a beefy 060 will make mincemeat out of anything living in FastRAM, ChipRAM is still as slow and awful as ever and double scan modes really hammer the available bandwidth for graphical operations.


Ya, but with a basic 3.1 install it should not be acting like this.

I'm going to tinker with MCP when I get home.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 08:05:58 PM »
Totally and utterly resolved!!! And now I'm in Hi-res Laced NTSC as well!!!! :)

The primary solution was to install BlazeWCP, but here's a full list of my system related software set up for those who may venture into ultra 060 land them selves some day. ;)

Hardware:

 Amiga 1200
 Modified Apollo 68060 (done by Stachu)
 MIPS: 70.51
 MFLOPS: 39.66

Software:

 Workbench 3.1
 BlazeWCP
 MagellanII
 CMQ060
 FBlit
 MagicMenu
 MCP
 FullPalette
 HSMathLibs 060


Anything else anyone can suggest? So far, Quake aside, everything is running fast as hell!
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 08:33:55 PM »
Not good!!!

I did use SysSpeed.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 09:34:20 PM »
Here is a video that Stachu shot before he mailed the board back to me:

http://youtu.be/zsHqXdH3r9Y

The MIPS are higher in it, I just now noticed.

Def not good. :/
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2012, 04:28:45 AM »
OK, so MCP and SYSPeed don't play well together.

With MCP I get the lower read out, without it I get:

MIPS: 104.27
MFLOPS: 42.05

Though without it BOOM runs like crap.

I presume MCP is working as it should and is only causing SYSPeed to produce an incorrect reading?

Here is the order in which our lord and savior Franko suggested for my startup-sequence:

Startup-Sequence order after setpatch:

C:Cmq060
C: blazeWCP
C:fblit
C:ftext
C:mcp

And I'm going to install patch control next.

BTW, my copy of Fblit must have been way out of date.

The archive I had was missing the GUI and Lib. Strange.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 11:39:23 PM »
RemApollo says I have the wrong version of the 060 Lib. Where do I get the right one?
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 02:29:25 AM »
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@ XDelusion

No thanks, huh?! People are so ungrateful these days. Don't ask for help next time, dude!
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Sorry?

Been busy man, have not had a chance to get back to this till now. Will post my results.

Thankx! ;)
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2012, 01:17:38 AM »
Alright, I am moved into my new home and back at this again.

I received my MKII in the mail yesterday so I decided to celebrate by giving OS 3.9 another go.

Well I installed 3.9 on 4 PFS formatted partitions. I installed both Boing Bags and just now tried to install FBlit again.

I put "C:FBlit"

In the line directly above BIND Drivers

But as fate would have it, start up tells me that FBlit is not an executable. Also when I double click it in within WB, nothing happens. No config menu, nothing.

Likewise, I installed Sysspeed, but it will not load either.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2012, 02:32:34 AM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;710102
That's an easy one to fix, just find FBlit in your C folder and change it's attributes to executable.

Are you using RemApollo yet, that made the biggest difference to my system.


Nova: Just saw your post here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=493925


If I set it to executable, it will shut it up during boot time, but I still can not double click it and launch it (just like SysSpeed), and if I try to execute it via CLI it will tell me it is not an executable there as well.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2012, 02:47:37 AM »
I have done this, but from what I understood you are supposed to launch FBlit at least once via Icon so that you can open up the config menu and save your config file to ENV.

Anyhow, now that FBlit is set as Executable, I tried to load it via CLI and it tells me that FBlitGUI is not an executable. If I set it to Executable and try to run FBlit via command line, I get a Reboot or Suspend option.

ALso I don't think FBLit is working (even though setting it to Executable made it stop complaining at boot time) because my memory is not freeing up yet.

Quote from: NovaCoder;710105
Hiya,

Yep like I said it's not setup correctly when you install it (don't know why), you have to find the program in you C folder (using WB) then click on it and open up the information and tick the executable attribute.

Don't try and execute FBlit by double clicking on it, just stick it the startup like I have my version I sent to you and you should be all good.

BTW, I don't think you should install MCP or BlazeWCP.
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2012, 03:00:15 AM »
Hmmm, it must be working cause FText seems to be working.

Strange, I seem to recall having more memory left after a basic install. Nothing else has been included at startup yet.

And I forgot that SysSpeed requires MUI, that's why it isn't working.

Back to Fblit though, isn't it supposed to have an extra file that goes into prefs?
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Re: Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2012, 04:22:39 AM »
Quote from: stefcep2;710111
MCP, BlazeWCP, fblit, ftext modify major system functions and can conflict with one another.  Back in the day I spent ages with them, I've forgotten more than I remember but there is a lot of guess work in order to get a stable system when patching things like this.  Thats the trade off for a faster system.  

In the end I actually wanted my A1200 to work without feeling I'm playing Russian roulette, and I just used the latest 060 library and the HSmathslibs, with reduce colors and resolutions.



I have ditched most of those, now I'm trying to use a Drap, RemApollo, HSMathLibs 060, CPU60, CMQ060, FBlit, FText, Visual Prefs, FPPrefs, combo. Having much trouble thus far.
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