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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 05, 2012, 07:46:12 PM »
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Just my 2 cents......  I like winuae better than ether of these  :D


And for that you must have a love for Windows...

...which again it is that lack of that love that many of us chose Amiga over Windows and Mac OS so many years ago.

Mind you, I do have a Windows machine for Video/Audio Editing, and Gaming, but I don't use WinUAE except as a means to read and write to my Amiga Hard Drives (SD/CF cards). It just feels wrong to use it for anything else when my machines are perfectly capable of playing all the games and running all the apps on their own, but alas, to each their own. Glad you are enjoying your self....

TRAITOR!!! ;) He he he.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 07:50:32 PM »
This doesn't bother me (yet). There are no apps or games for MorphOS that I was not able to run and run well even on my meager piece of crap eMachine.

What I expect from an OS is a fluid and flexible GUI, a stable environment, and for it to be friendly with the resources, not to mention to have a nice collection of practical software.

MorphOS delivers in that arena RIGHT NOW. AROS on the other hand is still catching up, despite it's ability to run on faster more modern processors.

Speaking of which, I have a 2.6Ghz machine at home that I've been able to over clock to 3.4Ghz. I use it to run Haiku and AROS, just as I run both on my Eee PC 900. So don't get me wrong, I am an AROS user, I do donate to the Magellan bounty, but I'm more impressed by MorphOS in the long run.


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Aros runs on all x86 CPUs from Pentium 3 to i7 PCs but MOS will not run on a G5 Mac so if we compare progress of Aros Intel i7 vs Powermac G5 Mos config clearly the truth is Mos is still on a tiny scale compared to Aros's ambitious PC  configurations supported. When MOS is running on every Mac desktop and laptop from G3 to G5 and Intel x86 Macs let me know :roflmao:

For me the issue is the PPC requirement, Commodore never made a PPC Amiga, Native OS for PPC or even A4000 upgrade card so Mos + UAE running on smelly old 90s Macs from a dumpster is no more "Amiga" than Aros + WinUAE running on a brand new dodgy brand of PC.

Mos is a hobby OS which costs more than Win7 and needs the inferior [to WinUAE] UAE emulator to run 90% of Amiga software.

Each to their own, but OS4/Mos are a waste of money IMO (just like Clownto's Amiga [shaft you] Forever is) :)
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2012, 10:23:43 PM »
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Don't think Morphos or any other amiga-like OS is doing better in that regard; only their CPUs are a little slower.
Nothing is stopping you from starting 4 AROS hosted versions under Linux though ;)

greets,
Staf.


But...

I would rather avoid using Linux... :)


Though I still wanna see that AROS/Linux distro see the light of day.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 12:22:57 AM »
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Actually, I'm amazed at how long we held on to such crappy expansion standards.
 
33MHz PCI slots? Argh!
If you calculate out the additional bandwidth, PCIe is a Godsend.
PCIe 2.0 even better, and PCIe 3.0 incredible.
 
Think about it, I've got a 1.53GHz processor operating on a 133MHz bus.
That's a rediculous I/O bottleneck.


Very true, but at the same time I don't think we have any software that is held back by that bottle neck. When we have such software (I.E. After Effects or Final Cut), then the demand for better hardware will be undeniable.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2012, 08:34:21 PM »
No no no, I would rather NOT use Linux! Talk about a hack job on top of a hack job on top of a hack job. I've got my sights set on Haiku for the future! :)

As for none of the Amiga OS's having multi-core or CPU support...

...ya sucks don't it? :/


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Well, the X1000 is the first PPC in our market that offers PCIe expansion (and there's still no software that really requires it there either), unless you count the meager expansion on the SAM460ex.

Consider this, PCI is inadequate for one USB 3.0 connection (it can only provide a fraction of the needed bandwidth), but one 4X PCIe connection has more then enough bandwidth for two full USB 3.0 connections.

BTW - As to your "I'd rather use Linux" comment. Do you realize that when you use an X1000 under OS4 you only have support for one processor core and 2 GBs of memory. When you run Linux you use both cores and can access 6 or more GBs of memory (not to mention better video cards)?
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 08:49:10 PM »
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You got me looking into that too.
Looks neat.

And, yeah, since the Quark kernel that underlies MorphOS can support SMP it does suck. Where the f*ck is Qbox?


What is Qbox?

Also, I presume you never used BeOS back in the day? Well my man, you are in for a treat, especially once Haiku finally gets version 1.0 out the door and more people begin to code for it.

It's really really cool! Unlike ANY other OS that I've ever used, but I think you'd have to read the tech docs and play around to see that. On a side note, Haiku/BeOS has always had Multi-CPU/Core support. And it will never tell you it can't move or delete a file because it is in use (Like some operating systems I know). I.E. lets say you are downloading a file that is a few hundered Mb is size, then you decide that you didn't want to save it to where you are saving it to, and might forget where it's at when you come back later to move it. Well, no problem, you can move it while it is being downloaded, and Haiku as well as what ever software you are using to download the file, will automatically adjust! Likewise you can do this with any movie or song file that you are playing, etc.

There is a way to monitor all your running programs, see how much RAM and CPU each one is using, and even asign what CPU/Core you want to app to run on.


There is so much to say about this OS, but I'll just leave it to their web page to educate you more. :)
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 09:08:04 PM »
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No, I'm old enough to remember the glowing reviews of BeOS when it was new.Didn't it originally run on Apple hardware/


I think it first ran on the BeBox, then Mac, and finally PC.

I still have an Amiga magazine where it is featured on the cover as the potential future OS of Amiga. :)
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2012, 02:42:51 PM »
This conversation is still going on?

I thought we had settled this and decided DOS was the way of the future?
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2012, 09:48:47 PM »
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Don't laugh, freedos rocks!

http://www.freedos.org

Was I the only bitter one when he realized you HAD to use windows eventually?

Dos was good. DRDOS was awesome. Windows is what was ****ty.

Steven


FreeDOS does rock! :)
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2012, 11:25:19 PM »
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Can you make a boot floppy with it for BIOS flashing?

Currently I boot my machines with a Win98 CD to a command prompt to do this, but it would be simpler if I could just have the flashing software and BIOS file on the same floppy I boot with.


Prolly... Though I use USB drives to flash my machines.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2012, 02:24:32 PM »
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Funny, right before checking back on this thread I was playing back a ripped copy of a Godzilla movie (don't worry, I actually own a DVD of it).

I don't use DRDrs too much.

BTW - Its scary how much old programs like DVDdecrypter still work on.


Godzilla rules!!!
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