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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« on: January 26, 2012, 07:57:49 PM »
One of the megaupload guys used Amiga?

FBI in Hong Kong, NWO, what?
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 09:08:45 PM »
What a bunch of crap! It was just a file server, they didn't upload "illegal content" them selves, and besides the server sat in a country that A. Is not the united states. B. As far as I know, still has no copy right or piracy laws.

Boooooooo
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 10:03:17 PM »
Quote from: paul1981;677605
I suppose it's much to do with the (U.S.A.) music and film industry, Uncle Sam is loosing revenue due to piracy.


Piracy is just an excuse to further erode the constitution and bill of rights.

As is plain to see, but the entertainment business owned news media fails to point out to those to lazy to seek out knowledge on their own, is that countries that refuse to place piracy laws or in some cases copy right laws are getting along just fine. Piracy literally hurts nothing because regardless of it, people still trained to shop and hord for happiness. Besides piracy is no more a threat than VHS recorders of yester year, or buying things second hand. Besides, Hollywood and the musick industry suck. There is little talent coming from them and 99% of it just seemed geared towards the purpose of desensitization, opinion making, and social engineering.

The attack on Megaupload RIGHT after SOPA got shot down is just another case of The Beast telling us that it is going to do what it wants, where it wants, how it wants, regardless of what the people want, because...

The beast knows what is best for us more than we know ourselves...

According to it. Indeed this is the new world democracy the protesters and riots are begging for, unbeknownced to them selves.
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 12:02:04 AM »
Wow, people stll believe in the official report through the corporate conglomeration known as the news media (always protective of it's merchandise,agenda, and those up top who help fund, promote, and protect them).

Shall I suggest reading The Media Monopoly? The Critical Warnings of Neil Postman? Shall I advise you to take heed to religion and the world's tribal ancestors who did not put the value of objects above freedom, tradition, culture, tribe, family, or the gods?

Have you lost your mind? :)

The necessity of civil government grows up with the acquisition of valuable property. Till there be property there can be no government, the very end of which is to secure wealth and to defend the rich from the poor. - Adam Smith


This is abot property and control, manifest destiny.  nothing more, nothing less.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_and_society
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 01:11:53 AM »
And now that public domain can be bought, hardware can still be considered property of it's maker regardless if you bought and paid for it, corporations have the same "rights" as people, and information (truth, evidence, and therefore the means to justice) can be owned...


How far do you think they are going to take this?
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 02:06:07 AM »
Here's one...

Piracy is not a crime, it's a life style choice and pirates should not be discriminated against for expressing their free will as they please.

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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 10:20:15 AM »
:)



Quote from: runequester;677668
Without piracy, ****ty music wouldn't spread as much :D

i gave up on replacing destroyed cd's with downloaded versions. Nowadays i try to find indie music or i'll just listen to the song on youtube (until they shut that down too).

Like xdelusion there I oppose patents and copyrights on a moral basis, though from the basis of being a communist, whereas he opposes them from the basis of spirituality.
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 06:58:26 PM »
I've always admired Chuck D of Public Enemy for the things he's done since his group broke away from the record company that once chained them and put tape over their mouth.

Going Independent or working with an Indy Label brings about freedom that a record company will not give you, plus it gives you a much better cut as well.

The trick though is that the Indy label you are working with has to have money to get you out on the road and touring, or if you are going without a record company you have to fund the touring your self, and know your own connections to get booked and what not.

Thankfully, with the current freedom of the internet, bands are able to spread awareness of their existence without going through all the usual networks as before. Granted one never makes much money through MP3/Flac/CD/Tape/ or Record sales, but the internet does at least allow people to get their stuff heard which in turn raises the chances that there will be a decent turn out when they do a live performance.

Though again as I said, touring has to be paid by the band itself or by the Indy label they are on. For this to happen, people got to work REAL JOBS and raise that money. Hardly anything in life aside of Life itself comes for free, so in the indy world, there is no opportunity to kick off your heels and slide under the boss' desk for a quick promotion. You  gotta work hard, you got to develop your talent, and you got to make people hungry for more, without the aid of quick advert enticing promotions.

As for the touring itself, as Chuck D said, doing local tours is dead, they say the best way to make your money is to tour internationally as their seems to be a larger market for musical diversity and depth of lyrics across seas than there is here in America (we seem to flock towards empty fluff for some reason). So all in all, if someone wants to play musick for a living, they are going to have to work hard with or without the record company, but the upside of doing it without is that you get a larger cut of the pay (if not all minus expenses), and you do not have to worry about being censored, or having your own work stolen from you by the company itself, claiming it is their property and their work to be sold and used how they please...

Sort of like how ABC (or was it NBC) has the rights to Dr. Martin Luther King's speeches, for which reason we never see them played in full, because they have now become intellectual property. :/

No doubt, that's why the Prez never fully quotes King during Martin Luther King Day.

When information is owned, it can be more easily (legally) concealed.
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 07:39:03 PM »
Heh, ya that's the other thing about the general nature of piracy...

People tend to be more about their collection than actually enjoying what they've got...

Always in the pursuit of more and more and more.

On the otherhand, those who do not have a touch of collector's obsessive compulsive disorder generally just buy the few albums, movies, or apps that they do use and have time for.

About a year ago a branch of the US government did a study on this, and like Sega of the Dreamcast era, deemed piracy to be less a threat and more along the lines of free promotion and publicity. In fact I've heard up and coming musicians thank pirates time and time again for making their work known.
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Re: A reminder about filesharing sites
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 02:16:22 AM »
If I were to conspiracy theorize, I'd say they set up this whole debacle was deliberately set up so that "they" would have an excuse to deliver to certain dull minded people to give up their dreams of freedom in exchange for "security".

 Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither. - Benjamin Franklin

 Only seven years ago we made a treaty by which we were assured that the buffalo country should be left to us forever. Now they threaten to take that from us also.
 Strangely enough, they have a mind to till the soil, and the love of possessions is a disease in them. - Chief Sitting Bull


Quote from: A1260;677813
so who made these cd burners so you could rip your cds to wav -> mp3... sony..... so you can say the music industry shattered all control them self...

and by the way acta have been signed and is worse than sopa/pipa, all behind peoples back....

read...
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-01/26/eu-signs-up-to-acta
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs