Image Size Reduction Software

[XDelusion]

So what is that one magical App for the Amiga that can resize images without loosing much quality? I need to do some major image reduction and could really go for an app that won't screw everything up.

[XDelusion]

Well I own ImageFX, but have had issues getting it to run correctly under MorphOS, and on that note, it seems I'm the only one having these issues with it. ;/

Anyhow, what I am doing is Taking Screen shots of models from Jedi Outcast inside Windows.

I need to drastically reduce the size of these images and apply the DOOM or Dark Forces color palette to them for use with PrBOOM +.

I'll have a look at this command line program.

[XDelusion]

AdPro Ori?

[XDelusion]

Found it! Now if it would just load and display an image rather than a black screen.

As for "ori". On EAB they have an iFusion package chirped Adpro.ori

[XDelusion]

Art Department Pro. Latest version

[XDelusion]

Alright, will try on 1200 and eMac.

Thank you!

[XDelusion]

Tanks hot cakes, I'll give a go tonight!

That image looks really good, I suppose I shouldn't count out the 600 for graphical work.

[XDelusion]

If you get that far on the A1200, then you merely have to select "scale" from the "operators" menu.
And there are easy ways to improve the results of "scale" too.
I should say, though, that depending on your file format there could still be an issue here, so let us know if the file loads. If not, try to determine the format, and there might be a workaround.
Sadly, the loaders are only going to be "smart" enough to cover the format standards from the time Adpro was last updated.

#6

Format won't be an issue. I am starting off with screen shots after all, so I can save the originals into what ever format is needed. Thanks again for all the help...

Everyone.

[XDelusion]

I didn't realize Show Girls did that. I'm just used to thinking of it as a Comic Book Viewer.  

Will test and compare results.

BTW, I'm not going for speed, I'm going for image quality and preservation.

[XDelusion]

I now have all the suggestions made above installed on my MorphOS machine.

The results...

Show Girls steals the show by a long shot!

Not only does it support nearly every format under the sun, it also seems to have the best quality preservation when reducing the size of images.

At first the image becomes blurry as one would expect, but once I run the Sharpen feature on the shrunk image, it almost looks as good as the original.

The only faults I see with Show Girls at the moment is the fact that it does not allow for Palette loading and saving, plus it is not always clear what format I am saving in.

When I hit Save, I can choose the format, and I suppose I just change the extension when saving, but when I choose Save As, I don't get to select the format. Also it does not seem to support saving in BMP, which forces me to return to my Windows machine to change the format so that I can apply the Palette I need for DOOM, and save it again.

Is the author of Show Girls still working on this?

[XDelusion]

I'm not one who would expect that. Quite the opposite.
Scaling up, sure, because it's manufacturing detail that just isn't there in the original. But I thought you were scaling down.

#6

I am scaling down. I'll try to post some "before and after" examples tomorrow.

Maybe we can have a competition and see who can come up with the best results.

[XDelusion]

The best software I found for resizing in Windows was Fotosizer, but...

I prefer to work under Windows as little as possible. It's bad enough that all my mapping and Wad editing needs must be done there.

[XDelusion]

Alright, here are a few examples of what I'm working with. I have provided to ZIP files, one contains screen shots of some of the models I'm trying to shrink down and use, and the other contains a texture of a crate in it's original form, it's shrank form, it's shrank and sharpened form, and at long last shrank with new palette(s) applied.

The textures for the most part are not problematic. I am pretty happy with the results, though I noticed that once I apply the Palette's that some of the colors bleed. In the case of the file with the DOOM Palette, I already cleaned it up, but I have not touched to colors on the one with the Dark Forces Palette, so you can see what I'm talking about on that one.

As for the sprites, if you compare Sentry.BMP with Sentry.PNG you can see how horrible the images begin to look once shrank. If anyone can manage to shrink any of these models down without loosing so much detail, then PLEASE by all means, let me know how you do it!

For the note, small sprites like the Sentry need to be shrank down to something like 42x42 pixels, where as the the Storm Troopers need to fit in a pixel range of something like 45x56 (width height). As for the Mech1, it will need to fit within a pixel ratio of 50x70 (width x height).

EDIT: I can not upload anything here but the Crates after they have been shrank and treated. Amiga.org's file size limit is WAY to low!!!

Going to have to upload the rest to my page then come back and link to them. Grrr. :/


http://starwarslegacy.net/Documents/DFCRATE1.zip

http://starwarslegacy.net/Documents/Models.zip

[XDelusion]

I'll have to look at those at home, my parent's computer screen is too dark.

But thank you for having a look, I'm eager to see what they look like on a good screen!

As for the reason mine was larger. It's because that's as small as I could get it before it  looked like utter and total crap. In fact I still think my end result looks pretty crappy, I had one that looked a tad bit better, but forgot to include it.

Anyhow, if you could possibly shrink down one of the other models to fit within the specs I mentioned, I'll REALLY be impressed! I always ended up with a bunch of blocks that hardly resembled the original model.

On that note, I may have to take smaller screen shots of the models to begin with. That has helped in the past, but again, zooming out the model results in less detail.

[XDelusion]

Once you have viewed em on a decent screen, let me know if you prefer any of my scaling ones from yours and if so ill do the resize (please give me a list of sizes for each image as I wasnt sure about the size you wanted for some of them)

Cheers.

Looks like I did end up sharing my best result after all. I just needed to replace the redness on the edges with more black and Grays.

I thank you for the offer, but what I'm looking to do here is give time for a few people to experiment and submit their results. Then if someone can come up with something that is a step above the rest, I'd like then to share their methods so I can learn from them.