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OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« on: April 29, 2010, 09:24:39 AM »
I used to use OctaMED Sound Studio all the time back in the latter half of the 90's. Since then I moved on to PC where I basically got hooked because of a handful of software that just does not exist on ANY OTHER Operating System and I can not live without them.

While having this extra power I began using Open Mod Plug Tracker and my OctaMED use fell to the way side, but...

...here we are, years later and I'm beginning to tinker with the old hardware again and I was that particular sound that only a real Amiga can produce in that unique Amiga flavor.

So I'm installing OctaMED S.S., but on disc two, it turns out that the Installer gives me an error.

Mind you I have updated the installer via Aminet and I still receive this error:

Sorry... an Error Has Occured!

Coyfiles: Problem with source file/drawer "OctaMED_SoundStudio2:Rexx" in line 150.

DOS Error Type: Unable to locate a file or Drawer.
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How can I resolve this issue? I've always had this problem since the 90's and always had to do an install by hand.

I've had other programs that had issues during and install, and I never understood why that would be.

In regards to advice, what settings would you veteran users suggest for an Amiga 1200 030/40Mhz with 16Mb of RAM. And what setting would you suggest for an Amiga 600 68000 with 4Mb of RAM total?

By this I mean OctaMED's Frequency settings, channels, halfing, sample quality, size, and all that jazz.

BTW, what is Sample halfing anyhow, and should I use it, because it only seems to make the samples sound like crap.


Finally, why is it that when I am using OctaMED Sound Studio, that it sometimes begin to put out garbage instead of the sounds it is supposed to? The only way I've found to resolve this is to reboot.

Again, thankx in advance!
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 12:49:48 PM »
Where is the final release anyhow?
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 11:17:35 PM »
That's what I got is the CU Amiga version. I can't tell you how psyched I was when I found that issue on the stands! :)

Anyhow, ya the OctaMED site seems to have dropped Amiga support totally and announced that an OS4 port probably will never happen due to the ill health of the guy who was porting it. Also, no code release, what a shame. :/

If I could find a copy that doesn't have the annoying pop ups when you start it, I would be elated!
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 12:21:42 AM »
Karlos: Yes the pop up does annoy me that much!!! :)

I'm not wealthy enough to run OS 4.1 anyhow. I was just hoping for an updated port that matches the features of the latest Winblows version, and was keeping my fingers crossed that it would also run on MorphOS for when I buy an old MacMini or what ever to run it.

The Goose: Is there anywhere to has the last release of this available for download that is not the CU Amiga edition?

Tension: I'll give that a try.

Methuselas: I intend to keep posting information as I find it, and will probably be setting up a section on my web page later just for OctaMED Sound Studio for the Amiga since the official site is lacking in the department.

I'm also interested in checking out DigiBooster again some day and seeing what that's all about...
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 01:44:12 AM »
Goose: So it was on Aminet. I wonder why none of my searches brought that up for me?

Anyhow, my problem isn't getting it running, I do remember enough about the Amiga to still accomplish that much, I was just curious why people release stuff with bad install scripts basically.

For poops and giggles I did copy the contents of both discs to a directory and assigned the floppies to that directory, but no matter what, it kept asking for disc two which eventually leads to failure during the install. Oh well.

In regards to the OctaMED site...

...ya, looks like us OctaMED users need to organize our own site for the Amiga original or something. Sad times!

They author seems kind of ticked that no one wants to pay for the Amiga software, but I guess if you your latest update was free, and you haven't worked on it since, then what can you expect? He should at least write a small update for the 680x0 Amigas with a few new features. I'd buy a copy for sure! I just don't care about the Windows port in the least. I have Open Mod Plug Tracker for that.

Besides, I want something for the Paula chip, not my Sound Blaster Live. :)


spihunter: I'll look for those settings. In the mean time care to post where they are at in case I don't find them and also in case others might want to turn it off as well? Thankx! :)
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 02:07:47 AM »
Did you ever come by the ISO then?

If so I'd really like to have it, for the extra samples if anything.
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 02:23:56 AM »
There is a copy on Ebay of 1.1, which I presume one can update. ONly $10.00
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 04:28:21 AM »
I have looked all over and there does not seem to be a setting to turn off the pop-up, and ironically, dude man above never reposted to tell us where it is allegedly at. :/

Anyhow, here's another questions:

Why do IFF files always have that static sound in the background? What file formats are you guys using for your OctaMED creations? I'm tinkering with downsampled wavs as we speak...
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2010, 07:21:44 PM »
O.K. Thank you all, I think I have a better understanding now, and I'm getting the idea (through experience) that I should stay clear of 16-bit samples on a 68000 machine because it can't play them properly and turns them into industrial noise (which has it's uses actually).

When my 030 arrives in the mail I'll play with them more, in the mean time I'll tinker with the info above and try to convert what I have into the cleanest 8-bit sounds I can come up with.

I have a DSS8+, but I don't really see the need to resort to that when I can do all the conversion work on my PC then send it to the Amiga, unless you guys are suggesting I might maintain better quality going through it.



And anther question. I was once told to hit HELP in the Instrument Editor or something to bring up OctaMED's guide...

...well that never happens and I don't even see the guide on the discs I have.

Thankx again to all who are taking their time to help here! :)
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2010, 08:22:34 AM »
KARLOS: And where do I go to turn on Mix Mode? I thought I had it, but I'm still getting noise, so I must be in the wrong place. Are you talking about setting it to 14-bit mode (since I am going through paula), or something else?

Also if you could ever put up a youtube video of your midi set up in action, that would be awesome!

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around midi on top of OctaMED and eventually want to control my 2600 through my Amiga and perhaps set things up sort of like how you've got it. From the sounds of it, that's the way to go, but a video would help me visualize, since I'm not totally sure I fully understand how your set up works.
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2010, 03:51:27 AM »
Karlos, I really enjoyed the tracks, especially the last one! Great work!

I don't consider my self a musician, but I LOVE to experiment with noiz as it were.

Once my 030 arrives int he mail and am more prepared, I'm going to start tinkering with some of the stuff you mentioned above, and like The Goose, I'm sure I will have questions galore, but so far, I "think" I understand what you are describing more or less.

In regards to Mix Mode on OctaMED...

...that's what I had done, but I still get noise, so I'm assuming an 020 with minimal RAM is not suitable for the job. Hence the reason I'm going to wait for my 030 to arrive before I mess with higher quality samples at all, in the mean time, I'm going to try to use that static constructively. :)
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2010, 06:11:34 AM »
I'm uploading some material I put together in Comic Book Reader (CBR) format, and will post the link to it and it's viewer for Winblows when done. Otherwise you can rename the file and give it a ZIP or RAR extension to extract the pictures inside.

The first page I believe still applies to the Amiga version, and the rest of the pages are guides, introductions, and tips from a couple issues of CU Amiga magazine.
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 06:35:07 AM »
The Guide:

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=4w987mbt70f

The Reader(s):

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_best_comic_book_reader_program.

I use CDisplay personally, and am aware of viewers for Linux.
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 08:56:27 AM »
Here's my latest work in progress. I intend to add in some of OctaMED's effects and what not in time as I re-learn those things I've forgotten.

Now how would I go about saving this into a 16-Bit wav on my Amiga?
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Re: OctaMED Sound Studio Install Issues & Advice.
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 10:49:49 AM »
Thankx again Karlos! Your a well spring of information.

Stop Instruction, that's another thing I used to know but forget. What command do I use for that again? :)
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