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Re: New OS4 Screenshots!
« on: February 05, 2004, 09:00:17 AM »
As before it looks like OS 3.9 with a few more pieces of eye candy basically. Guess I'd actually have to use it to understand  how much better this is going to be compared to what we have.

The thing I TOTALLY don't understand is this:

Amiga OS has always been for the 68k CPU family. And it has always ran VERY VERY well on those CPU's even on the very low end stock Amiga's with only a 68000 and 1 Mb or Chip RAM. As long as you did not have a fancy back drop with a lot of colors going at once, things ran smoothe, but if you have a 50 Mhz 030 and turned up the GFX, you could add some eye candy and still run smoothe.
 The part that gets me is when you see a Demo of OS 4 which is running on a PPC CPU of some kind which can run circles around a 50Mhz 030, that and PLENTY of RAM, yet the responsivness of the OS seems absolutly horrible!!!! Even when there are no fancy backdrops being used or anything. Is this a temporary bug due to how complicated it is to port something from 68k to PPC, or is Amiga OS on a highway to BLOAT hell!?!? They say better drivers would fix this, but did classic Amiga not have hardware accelration like we have today, and still respond very smoothly?!?!? Come on, we're talking PPC here not 68000!!!

 Please someone explain this madness to me. I really look forward to OS4, but at times I begin to freak out about the whole deal.


 P.S. is MorphOS suffering the same nightmare?
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Re: New OS4 Screenshots!
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 07:49:16 PM »
I wan't meaning to Troll.

I really have little technical understanding of how all this works, let's take JIT for instance, I have no idea what it stands for or how it works, I just know it makes UAE a pleasent experience.

When I say that all I notice is eye candy, I don't mean that in a bad way AT ALL, so long as it does not bog down the OS itself. Rather what I was getting at is all I see are screen shots, and that is a pretty exciting thing, but what I REALLY need is a hands on experience so that I can compare the new Amiga OS experience with that of the past. I know it is no longer written for custom chips, and that it is being ported from 68k assembly to PPC C code, so that is a tough thing and will hit performance a bit, but...

...I still expect Amiga OS 4 to FLY when it is done, that is what I am anxious to see. I don't doubt that it can happen it is just that the videos I have seen looked BAD, as in SLOW, and being that I am not overly informed on all the technical jargon, it is hard for me to uderstand why the videos looked like OS 3.1 running on a stock 500 with icons turned on! :) I'd expect the icons to draw themselve out in like a milisecond, and all Amiga apps (being as tiny as they are) to launch in a milisecond as well. None of this Winblows/Linux/Mac crap where we have to wait five years for the screen to draw itself, because I know the OS for once is not Bloatware, so it should not run like it.


 Some of your explenations have helped so far thankx!
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Re: New OS4 Screenshots!
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2004, 03:31:09 AM »
Decent 2?

 I'd still like to see an Advanced DOOM engine such as DOOM Legacy, JDOOM, or ZDOOM instead.

 Of course Marathon 1 and 2 would be nice, Duke Nukem (or do we already have that one) ect.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs