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Re: Hubble secret out!
« on: July 02, 2004, 11:14:25 AM »
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The discovery will lend support to the idea that almost every sunlike star in our galaxy, and probably the Universe, is accompanied by planets.

And on those planets....


...and on those planets, nothing much, since to be detected by the orbital 'wobble' technique a planet has to be several times the size of Jupiter!

If such a large planet is so close to the star its probably unlikely that there are rocky planets within the habitable zone. They'd have been hoovered up by these giant gas beasts long ago.

Instead of finding where there might be life, Hubble might be telling us where it definitely won't be.
 

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Re: Hubble secret out!
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2004, 11:43:05 AM »
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[BTW, i`m a believer in galactic lifeforms - including those on gas giants...]


Oh, those gas giants where the surface temperature is a couple of hundred degrees C, laced with hydrogen cyanide clouds, the gravity is 20 times Earth's, and the background radiation caused by the magnetic field is more than an unshielded nuclear reactor? ;-)
 

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Re: Hubble secret out!
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2004, 08:02:20 PM »
It's about 120,000 ly.
 

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Re: Hubble secret out!
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2004, 03:25:38 AM »
If there were really as many civilisations around as some say, we'd have been in a dozen radio shells already and would know them. Things are always more boring in real life than they are in sci fi.

So we have to consider that, either no civilisations exist close enough for radio waves to ever reach us, or that they either disappeared too early or appeared too late for their radio shells to be detectable. Or that they never developed radio at all and don't want to.

Personally I'm not a fan of alien civilisation ideas, since they don't usually take into account the vast size of the universe and the vast number of difficulties and incredibly unlikely factors faced with not just with a star system being suitable for life, but suitable for long-term life and a civilisation. It's a near possibility. However, the universe is rather large, so near impossibilities would quickly become certainties...

I'd put the figure at maybe an alien civilisation every 12 galaxies, at a pessimistic guess. Which means we'll never, ever contact them using simple electromagnetic transmissions. Unless there is a more instantaneous way, they may not exist at all because we'll never detect each other. Which may actually be for the best. Evolving to survive and rule one planet was hard enough, how difficult would competing with 1000s of alien life forms be? :-P
 

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Re: Hubble secret out!
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2004, 02:39:49 PM »
Heh, I put in some numbers into that Drake equation and got:

5.99999999999994e-74

Not a big number. :)