PMC wrote:
Everyone else seems to be able to turn up and watch a footie game, but we English have had a special reputation for turning it into an excuse to get bad suntans, go drinking and end up fighting some foreigners who we might / might not have had a war with at some point in the last millenia.
Well, that's exactly it. Getting drunk and starting riots is now part of the England fan ethos, and changing it is going to be very difficult. Uefa wanted to kick the England team out of the competition to shock people into changing their ways, but since this violence is not match-related they can't. Maybe they still should. All it would take is once or twice being shamed in this way to throw a bucket of water over that kind of nationalist crap and teach that small hooligan contingent once and for all they'll only be hurting their own pride.
