amigaone cpu ??

[KennyR]

Let me put some personal perspective on this.

I run my Amiga software now with a PPC G3 at 600MHz. Yes, it's a Pegasos. The whole setup cost me less than a modern middle-end PC - including custom tower and cordless keyboard and mouse. It isn't slow, not by any stretch of the imagination.

It takes 10 seconds to boot. IBrowse loads in a flash - literally. I can go from being powered off to browsing Amiga.org in less than 13 seconds. Absolutely everything I run on it flies - and that's without JIT. It is literally quieter than a whisper: the only fan is in the PSU. My AGP 3D card is fast even by modern standards and also needs no fan.

I have a UDMA hard drive that can load 38MB/s, 512MB of very fast RAM, and 64MB of DDR graphics RAM. I get 16bit 48KHz sound with no noticable performance hit. Needless to say this is total overkill: no Amiga apps in existence need anywhere near this spec. It eats Heretic 2 alive in framerate - and that's just in software mode. I can view PDF files faster than a 2GHz PC can. Every app I click on is loaded almost the moment I let go of the mouse button. It is truly the fastest feeling machine I have ever used, and I've used a lot.

AmigaONE owners need not feel left out. The A1XE spec is even faster, once they get a real OS to run, and not just Linux (which makes everything feel slow).

And best of all, I get to know that I have something different, something that's not just another bog-standard PC. And I love it.

Who the hell needs x86?

[KennyR]

"Define middle end PC"...

A middle-end PC: about the spec you'd get for 1000 UKP. My (over-extravagant) Pegasos setup cost me £700, all in (minus monitor). Any PC beneath the 1000UKP mark is pretty much useless: it's obsolete far too fast. You'd be lucky to play the new games at the time, never mind in six months. Old PCs are useful for Linux and for office stuff, not for games. I've been through this twice before and have two PCs that will either not work at all with modern games or will struggle badly. I have to daily watch XP utterly crawl on a 1.3GHz Athlon with a "measly" 128MB.

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Who the hell needs x86?

Playing 2003 era leisure titles.

Of which there are none on the Amiga, and not just because its hardware is too old. If one wants to play PC games, one should get a PC and run Windows on it - and should shut up and just put up with whatever sh*t Windows throws at one with clenched teeth. (*shudder*)

[KennyR]

It takes 10 seconds to boot. IBrowse loads in a flash - literally. I can go from being powered off to browsing Amiga.org in less than 13 seconds

One could do same thing on Windows 3.11** and Opera on Pentium 4 2.0Ghz (PC2100 DDR SDRAM/7200RPM HD) box.

Sounds masochistic. :-o I've seen Windows3.11 chew up busmaster DMA as if it was PIO0. Windows for Workgroups was horribly bloated at the time, far more bloated than MorphOS is now, even without taking the year into account. In short, I think 10 seconds is wildly optimistic.

[KennyR]

good PC in america can be gotten for far below 1000USD let alone UKP ... for example one of my systems..

P4 2.4/533FSB
1.5GB DDR
2x 80GB IBM drives
drive sleds/caddys
CDRW 32X
Asus motherboard
GeForce4 Ti4400

Middle end. (Looks like a teeny gamer's setup, actually.)

Besides, a x86 native AmigaOS could never be coded to work on the range of PC hardware people would want (ie. a new setup every six months), so why even both to mention it?

I think peggy might make a nice game console or something someday because of this..

Hold that thought. Genesi make their money from custom hardware. In other words, standard hardware = no money. No money = no development. No development = no OS. If you're waiting for a x86 Pegasos, I advise you to prepare for a VERY long haul.

[KennyR]

see your assumeing an AmigaOS for X86 would need to run on everything...if it ran on 1 setup and they told us what to buy...and it was obselete it would still be cheaper and more attainable

Erm, no.

If they told you what to buy, it would limit people in the same way as PPC hardware does, negating the whole advantage of using cheaper PC stuff. So what's the point? And as for availability - forget it. Try getting old PC hardware on a reliable basis and you'll see what I mean. And, supporting a chipset doesn't mean supporting more cards in the same family, as you'd soon find out.

and my P4 2.4 was bought all new... Quadro 4 750 due back from PNY anytime now : ) no gamer system... I dont even have Quake...

Then you wasted your money, my friend. Unless you needed a heater, that is.

[KennyR]

I wasted number 3000 nooooooo ... I forgot ...

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[KennyR]

I installed Win311 on my system between OS reinstalls for laughs, and Win311 took ~6 seconds to finish loading from the moment I hit enter on win.com.

Did I mention that about 6 seconds of the MOS boot is actually the initialisation of Open Firmware? MOS only takes about 4 seconds to boot. Seems it still beats Windows3.11. ;-)