MorphOS Emulator for AmigaOS 4.0

[KennyR]

No surprises there then. I had expected it sooner in fact. For sure the OS4 crowd have a lot more to gain from an emulator than the MOS crowd do - there is painfully little in the way of OS4 software MOS people don't already have. But not so the other way around.

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[KennyR]

Rogue wrote:
The same goes for those that have been saying for years that MOS is so superior to OS 4 - do they use OS 4 software in spite of their superiority claims?

What OS4 software do they use, Rogue? I've never found anything released for OS4 that is worth running on MOS, with the simple exception of VICE, and that doesn't work anyway. For sure there is no large collection of OS4 software. I've been through OS4depot a dozen times and found nothing I would want to use that I don't already have. On the other hand OS4 users theoretically could use mldonkey or mplayer or commercial games or a hundred other useful tools built up from two years of being a finished OS with a decent developer base.

OS4emu has been fun from a technical point of view, and it's been moderately entertaining watching you and your brother talk (edited by Admin: trolling) about piracy and threaten legal action about it. But it's been of no current use to the average MorphOS user, and we can't use stuff from OS4 itself because that would be piracy. Why emulate open source apps?

[KennyR]

Matt_H wrote:
Hooray! Now that software can run on both platforms, we're closer to closing the rift in the community!

Either that or everyone will stop releasing software in paranoia that the other side might use it. ;-) Actually, knowing the community, this will probably be what happens.

As for the software base, of course MOS has more software right now - it's been "released" for at least a year and a half, whereas OS4 has only been available in public beta for, what, six months? With such a head start for MOS, it's totally unfair, not to mention completely invalid, to compare them.

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@itix

Oops, I forgot. I mixed up VICE with something else I think.

[KennyR]

Rogue wrote:
As usual, you have a slight hang for exaggeration. We do have AMP, DvPlayer and Moovid for video playback, which is about everything I could ever want. There are hardly many commcercial games for MorphOS (or AmigaOS for the matter), and the hundred of useful tools are mostly unix ports.

Existing commercial applications for native MorphOS: Software Tycoon, Knights and Merchants, Tales of Tamar (native build), Birdie Shoot, Burnit 3, Papyrus Office. (That's not counting the WarpOS/Warp3D games and apps that can also be run.)

Existing commercial applications for native OS4: Freespace.

I'm not exaggerating anything, there's a gulf, and it's more to do with alienating commercial companies and lack of developers than being a young OS. And let's not forget those useful open source packages where source has been available for a year or so and nobody has ported them to OS4 despite obvious user interest. Once again I go back to my original point: emulating OS4, almost pointless. Emulating MOS, much more rewarding. But as I remind users again, why go to the expense of buying AmigaONE hardware if they want to run "evil non-amiga software"? It would be quite embarassing from an OS4 user POV if the bulk of their software would come from emulating an OS they have spent years decrying and defaming and telling everyone they won't use because it's not AmigaOS.

I don't think I ever thretened legal action. Please point me to somewhere I did so.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=14&topic_id=8409&post_id=107703&viewmode=thread&order=0#107703

(There are some other really funny gems in there, too.)

Your other comments are on Amiga-news, and in German. I could link them if you want, but you'll probably know them already.

I'm confused now. You accuse me of "whining about piracy" and now admit that piracy would be a possibility (although, as far as I am aware, it cannot load libraries and hence loading Reaction classes wouldn't work - yet).

Piracy is always a possibility, emulation or not. And I'm not whining about it. You were. Although your protests about emulating wrappers did come to rather an abrupt halt yesterday, I wonder why.

[KennyR]

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[KennyR]

ikir wrote:
The only program i would to use right now from MOS is Mplayer, and a OS4 native version is coming.

Yes yes ikir, everything is coming. Just around the corner, just a few more weeks.

I don't care about both emulators, you too, MOS zealot? :-/

Zealot? :lol: Have you ever read your own posts occasionally?

[KennyR]

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