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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« on: November 20, 2004, 08:06:20 PM »
What do you want, Fade? When we try to do something about people living unhealthy lifestyles, you whine like we're a bunch of fascists. When we don't, you still whine.
 

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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2004, 11:54:43 PM »
And we'd like our allies not to be gunhappy gung ho cowboys. You don't always get what you want.
 

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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2004, 07:30:05 PM »
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There are few satisfying jobs, people are working longer than ever, people are taking longer to get to work because of the rubbish transportation system..


Oh, I wonder who killed all the industry in the country and reduced us to a call centre and office economy. Wasn't socialists, as I remember. Nor was it socialists who privatisted the transportation system and made it rubbish in the first place.

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what does the government expect? Enterprise is discouraged, the politically correct nanny government has instilled the belief into everyone that they can do anything without working for it (well done for pointing this out Prince Charles).


Again, it wasn't the socialists that made five million people employed just to keep down inflation, and actually begin the way of life which we now know as "living off the social" which has become so endemic and symptomatic as the modern British way of life. Oh, which has been directly linked with the growth of the drinking culture. I'm just glad they didn't reduce us back to the days of gin halls and people dying in the streets like the old conservatives did.

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In fact, you have to work hard for things - but this doesn't sit well with the socialist government's idea of equality of attainment instead of equality of opportunity, so we all suffer - we're all at the lowest common demoninator.


And once again, it wasn't the socialists who wanted to create a widely seperate middle class and force everyone else to be the lowest common denominator.

Smithy, you're blaming the wrong people. These are all symptoms of two decades of destructive conservative rule. Not only do socialists always seem to get blamed for these things, they get blamed even more when they try to stamp down on them. Tighten benefits or restricting binge drinking and its the same people who cry "fascist" as who caused the damn problems in the first place. No wonder conservatives are a joke in Britain now.
 

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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2004, 10:07:43 PM »
OT: Just realised what that aristocratic leech Charlie Saxe-Coburg (a.k.a "His Majesty Prince of Wales") said. He said that "Britain's learning culture gave people hope beyond their capabilities".

You really don't believe in that elitist claptrap, do you smithy? Charlie doesn't have the right to tell ANYONE they're trying to get by without working, he lives totally off taxpayer's money and costs a lot more than any of us would!
 

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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2004, 10:56:48 PM »
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And "just to keep inflation down"????? Sweet Jesus man! Inflation KILLS economies. And it was already at record levels before Thatcher re-introduced some sensible economic policy to the UK. Inflation kills people's savings and it weakens the value of the currency. In 1972, Sterling was worth $3.75!!!!!! (imagine that today!). Even the incompetants who run the Eurozone have at last adopted the British economic model of low-inflation.


It was the conservatives who created the inflation in the first place! By taking all of the regulations off the economy to pursue this idiotic free market model (which has been proven unworkable many times), it got people spending which increased inflation. Now, instead of raising interest rates like present Labour, she was unwilling to incovenience the investors (who she was busy selling Britain off to), so she decided just to make a whole lot of people unemployed. Millions, in fact. Almost a quarter of the working populace, in fact.

That she can never be forgiven for. Many areas still haven't recovered. The areas that had most jobs in these industries she shut down became ghost towns. Then they became drugs and crime havens.

I don't care that the socialist system of the 70s was untenable. It could have been streamlined, but instead the Tories tore out the heart of the country and sold it off to obscenely rich tossers. Making so many people jobless at once almost destroyed the country. The prolonged mass unemployment began Chavs, high crime, unemployment culture, drinking and drugs culture, urban degeneration, and most of the other negative things that plague Britain today.