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Another rant following.

Wayne, I know what Genesi did to you, at least the outline of it. I am no lover of Buck either, and have said as much many times here. But you are making one seriously f**king HUGE oversimplification if you think he alone is to blame for the hate and division in the community, or even remotely close to it. The Amiga community could do that on its own, and did. The presence of the Amiga Inc/KMOS con artists and the bluntly mendacious Genesi, and their gathering of warring fanatical followers, is simply a symptom of an earlier cause.

If you want to understand that earlier source, you have to understand that it was there before Buck ever re-emerged with Genesi. I am truly dissapointed by your lack of late 90s Amiga history when I myself know about and wasn't even online at the time. There were individuals who were doing their DAMNED BEST to ruin the chances of the Amiga and divide it long before this red/blue issue ever appeared. They damaged reputations, they destroyed sales, they ended whole product lines. There were people who declared fanciful products and offers which destroyed the chances of REAL hardware, REAL opportunities, in favour of their poorly planned, badly envisioned, and eventually vaporous alternatives. People who launched every attack, defamation, and FUD campaign whenever possible against real and present products, often blinded by simple name following, but mostly just plain ego. No wonder most of the sensible part of the Amiga following jumped ship right there, back then, even before the Snoqualmie clowns appeared.

And if you really want to discover the core grain cause of the reason why now those of a certain view were chased into one site where they can be left alone from relentless criticism and trolling, it is mainly because of the people I mentioned above just happened to be the founders of the schismed 'red side' which now many mostly innocently support. A hell of a lot of bitterness remains, and the equally blatant immaturity of certain AmigaWorld moderators in both keeping it going and sharpening it even further with infamously bipartisan and unfair moderation has done nothing but wrench that divide even deeper. I know that their haters aren't doing anything to improve the situation, but they do have a real reason for their anger, at least at the source. Most are simply losers looking for a chance to ridicule someone for puerile fun, but down there, really deep down, there really is righteous indignation.

And that, as you seem to have pointed out yourself when you posted this rant, is not something that will ever really go away, and lead us to all sort of wrong conclusions. Such as pinning all the blame solely upon one of the few people who has made real financial investment into this community, for instance.
 

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Re: AWN revisited : truly disappointed in the maturity level shown recently
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2004, 06:06:24 AM »
Hooligan didn't exactly put his point across tactfully, so let me try to say what he meant, more rationally, about this:

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Bill Buck has, in fact, succeeded in making sure of only one thing, and that's that it's almost impossible for Amiga Incorporated (in their former glory) or even perhaps KMOS to succeed.


This is, without a doubt, one of the most misled and naive statements I've ever read from the keyboard of Wayne, especially considering his experience. At the height of Amiga Inc, Genesi didn't even exist, Buck wasn't around, and McEwen was haemmoraging money on an unoriginal product with no remote connection to the Amiga. To state incompetence is an understatement. The chances that Amiga Inc. ever had a chance of getting out a product are remote, and even if they had, it wouldn't have done any thing for the Amiga that Wayne is so proud to support.