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Offline MagicSN1

I assume you mean AmigaOS 4.1 Update2.

Yes, new Amiga's (PowerPC machines running OS4.x) can run OS3.x software in Emulation. It might not run everything but usually things run.

I don't know much on MIDI, but if this is on MIDI files, you can actually run them in software, and do not need hardware over RS-232 for it. I think there is a software
which plays MIDI files over AHI on os4depot.
 

Offline MagicSN1

Re: Is there new Amiga hardware (running OS 4.x) which supports MIDI?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2024, 10:13:52 AM »
Hi!

Please note that this is not an Emulation like UAE but a pure CPU Emulation.

This means it would depend if the software is done OS-friendly (through parallel.device). If it instead accesses the custom chips directly to access the parallel interface this would not work (and likely crash).

What software are you thinking of ?

Note there is also some MIDI software available for OS4. Myselves I just don't know much about MIDI software, so not sure what supports attaching a keyboard to the parallel interface.

See here:

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=search&tool=simple

Barsnpipes, Horny and seq would be MIDI Software available.

Best regards,
Steffen
 

Offline MagicSN1

Re: Is there new Amiga hardware (running OS 4.x) which supports MIDI?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2024, 06:37:24 PM »
Maybe the documentation in the lha archive gives some info ?

The requirements listed in the readme lists "AmigaOS4, camd.library, a hardware or software synthesizer" which sounds to me like a hardware synthesizer is supported.

Author of the OS4 version is Lyle Hazelwood.

Myselves I do not know enough on MIDI stuff to help (as is seen that I before talked about parallel port and it is appearently serial port, right ? ^^)

If I download the software and start it is there any way how I can find out for you - starting it on my OS4 machine - what is supported as to MIDI hardware ? If you can explain to me to which menu to go or whatever I could try it out (I do not have any MIDI hardware, but my assumption - not sure if correct - would be that you have to select something in the program somewhere ?
 

Offline MagicSN1

Re: Is there new Amiga hardware (running OS 4.x) which supports MIDI?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2024, 07:37:26 PM »
Hi!

I see. Hmmm, maybe best then to ask the author. But from what I read (with my non-knowledge on MIDI) I suspect it is supported.

Note appearently there are two independent (?) OS4 ports of Barsn Pipes. One by the author I mentioned (on os4depot.net) and one by the author you mentioned, on his homepage.

My understanding though is that you attach MIDI Hardware to be used in Bars&Pipes using this software

http://os4depot.net/?function=showfile&file=driver/misc/usbmidi.lha

to the USB Port (which is adding CAMD Driver for compatible MIDI Devices). This driver has been written by the same author like one of the two B&P Ports.

It is also mentioned on this wiki page

https://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/Bars_and_Pipes_Professional

that this software would be used to access MIDI devices from B&P, with a link to os4depot.

Best regards,
Steffen
 

Offline MagicSN1

Re: Is there new Amiga hardware (running OS 4.x) which supports MIDI?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2024, 05:11:31 PM »
The software he wants to use (Bars&Pipes) uses camd.library. I just see (sadly I lack real MIDI knowledge) always mention that CAMD would be used through USB, but not sure if
this means in the OS4 version it NEEDS to be USB, or if this is just the most modern way to access it and other options exist too.

I checked the archive though, and in there I found the following drivers:

- Soundblaster MIDI port
- Envy 24HT Driver (no idea what this even is!)
- x1000 onboard UART
- Onboard Gameport MIDI Driver which references especially the VIA686 chip. At best my knowledge this chip was only used in the Amiga x1000.

Asides from this there is the other archive with USB Support.

So this sounds to me that the following options exist:

- Soundblaster MIDI port
- x1000 (these options will not work on x5000 or Sam!!!): Serial interface or Gameport
- USB - as far as I understand it should work on non-x1000 as well
- Envy 24HT (whatever this is)

Unsure if the Soundblaster MIDI port version has requirements to specific Amiga models

Best regards,
Steffen