Is the Warp1260 still a good alternative now that PiStorm is out?

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I know this the Warp1260 has been hotly anticipated. But now you can get a relatively Cheaper alternative with a PiStorm and pi board. What are the chances for the Warp1260 succeeding?

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Depends on what speed you need 😉 I’ve got a Pi4B on my PiStorm overclocked to 2.2ghz. This equates to 88x faster than a traditional 68040 @ 25mhz

By the time you hunt down a Rev 6 at a decent price then the card and extras, you are easily looking around near £1000… compared to around £180 for a PiStorm and Pi4B.

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Agree, however Emu68 compatibilty still needs work. I could not get any firmware after June to work on Pi3 A+, work fine on Pi4 and CM4.
I have been playing around with Musashi. Is half the speed, but has better compatiblity.
Only issue, I just can not get RTG to work. It just keeps resetting machine when selecting an RTG screen mode. Has anyone else got it working on PS32 with Musashi?

RTG works fine with EMU68.

I’ve got it working *Cough* With CaffeineOS *Cough*

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I see. I believe the Mushashi variant isn’t being kept updated anymore… I’m sticking with EMU68. Give it time it will come through with better features. Just loving the speed especially for games such as Doom, Quake, SW Dark forces etc…

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Musashi is a pretty much finish product. Plus, why the hell would you want to run rappy old games for. So fedup of people in Amigaland getting excited about running Doom, Quake etc etc. from 1901. Borring.

I thought I was getting old… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏻

Each to their own 😉

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Interesting. But to me cost will be a big factor and the availability of 68060s.
I’ve been really impressed with the PiStorm and with its head start. I’m not sure if the Warp1260 will have a hard time.

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So there does appear to be some appetite for the Warp1260 then….

To me, if you have an itch to scratch, then a warp1260 would be a good card. But at the moment the unobtainable factor and with PiStorm out of the gates. To me I feel by the time the Warp1260 comes out, I feel price and availability plus the EBay scalpers may put people off.

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Can the Warp1260 add a W3D-compatible 3D Card ? I recently got the MiniGL-Renderer for Heretic2 68k running, if yes, this might be interesting to test the speed...

I keep reading about something called Wazp3D being mentioned? I’m thinking this is a take off of Warp3D. I’ve got a PiStorm mated up with a Mediator and a Voodoo 3 using Warp3D.

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@Boing-ball

Yes it is a reimplementation of Warp3d using software rendering.
My MiniGL renderer will of course also work with true Warp3d.
My code works both with Wazp3d and Warp3d.

Your setup combining pistorm and Warp3d 3d hw acceleration is
very interesting. So this does work?

Are you interested in becoming a Heretic2 68k
Betatester?

If yes write me an email to tirionareonwe@gmail.com.

If you do not have any nda with Hyperion signed i would
need full name and postal address and a statement along
the lines of „i state i will keep the information i get
during betatest confidential and especially not copy
the executables i receive during betatest to other people“.

I would be extremely interested how a pistorm plus
3d hardware setup performs with my game

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Steffen
tirionareonwe@gmail.com <- developer of H2 and Sin for AmigaOS

Hi,

The setup I have is the following.

Checkmate 1500 Case + Corsair 450SFX PSU
Re-Amiga V1.5 with new caps and NOS chips + ROM 3.2.2 (47.111)
Mediator SX board (Will be looking to swap that out soon with a TX+ 2021) with Voodoo 3 3000 (16MB), spider II USB, Realtek 8139D NIC. Having to use PCI extender cables due to orientation.
PiStorm with Pi4B (Overclocked) using an old EMU build from 11th July 2023 as this is the version that will work with a mediator. Anything else causes issue with the graphics and mediator functioning properly.
Elbox PC-Key1200 for keyboard
Elbox Cocolino Mouse adpeter for mouse wheel
Latest ELBOX DRIVERS being used, PCI.Library 3.15, Voodoo driver released on October 2023. Etc..

All I know is that Warp3D is installed. So will have a proper test of it. Although having to use the 4MB window on the mediator (8MB window needed for Warp3D to function properly), as using a Squirrel PCMCIA for SCSI operation.

Will get back to you when I’ve proven I have working Warp3D tested….

Cheers 👍🏻

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To keep this thread more on topic..

Just been over to the Warp1260 page. This is getting interesting now. There now appears to be an extra scandoubler/Flickerfixer option to attach to the Warp1260 for switching between RTG and Native Amiga modes..

https://amigawarp.eu/1_5_warp1260.html?a=warp1260-photos

Anyone bought these yet to try?