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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« on: September 24, 2003, 11:14:44 AM »
@Rassilon

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1) It doesn't mention that Genesi went after the Amiga trademark to cause Amiga problems.


That's because any such comment would not be factual. It would be little more than speculative propaganda, whether the writer believes it to be true or not.

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2) The mention of Amiga's countersuit is valid, but the comments and quotes shown afterwoods are only there to agrevate, and add little if any to the topic.


The quotes are also factual, and they do illustrate the care and attention taken by Amiga Inc when filing the countersuit. Actually, here the article may be wrong. Didn't Amiga Inc make a point of saying it's a counter-claim, not a counter-suit?

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3) According to the articles breakdown of the original Amiga/Genesi contract (and I am only going on the words here as I have not seeen the original) it says that:
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The contract states that future Thendic devices may be added to this list, but those devices would require the approval of Amiga Inc. to be so added.


Surely thats means that if Amiga do not wish to approve a device to add to the list they do not have to, thus rendering Genesi's case irrelevent?

Only if you ####ume that the contract does not require specific reasons for Amiga Inc. to reject a product, such as inadequate support. Usually the conditions for acceptance or rejection are enumerated somewhere, so that contracted parties cannot make such decisions on a whim.

The actual validity of the claim is something the courts will have to decide.
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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2003, 02:31:14 PM »
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Again, not sure where you EVER got this idea. It's a prime example of rumors being spread without basis of fact.

I'm afraid it's down to the nice folks on "the other site". Some bright spark realised that Amiga.org and MorphZone were hosted on the same server, and therefore "deduced" that the Amiga.org server must be owned by Genesi and that they are clearly funding the entire operation.

This little "proof" is wheeled out periodically but regularly on "the other site" as evidence that this is a Genesi controlled site, and the locals are lapping it up.

You're wasting your time telling them it's not true, because they invariably "know better".

Some things will never change.
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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2003, 02:37:21 PM »
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I don't see that there *is* any real need for this article.
Could you please explain to me what this *need* is?


and then...

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I agree that it is a well written, interesting article.


Methinks you've answered your own question. There is always a need for well written, interesting articles, particularly when they cover relevant subjects that have previously only been reported amidst monumental hysteria on both sides.
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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2003, 04:09:29 PM »
@Wilse

It looks like an editorial to me. Editorials have always been posted in the "News" section, and this one happens to be particularly factual. The forums are for individuals to post their opinions, which is not how I would class this article.
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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2003, 06:43:34 PM »
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If a company can't pay it's employees, then pretty soon it won't have employees. If they are in this much debt, I wonder why the investors and creditors haven't pulled the plug on them so far. Obviously there's more to the story. I didn't say the article was full of lies, everything on there might be true, but it's bullsh!t because I feel there's a large part of the truth that's missing from this article - and as such it's a very misleading article.

The article is based on publically available information, not on guesswork and innuendo.

If there's "a large part of the truth" missing as you claim, why don't you enlighten us, together with publically available evidence to back your claim?

There are a lot of morons about claiming to know all sorts of secrets that they aren't willing to divulge, but they do want everyone to a-s-s-u-m-e (will somebody fix that darned profanity checker?) thet they are telling the truth.
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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2003, 07:12:34 PM »
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All those documents post on websites...sure they showed some things, but did anyone take notice of the page numbers? there were sheafs of pages missing!

You're being very selective with your truth, aren't you? Why do you not also mention that the "missing" pages were not included in the deposition to the courts and that even Amiga Inc's counsel obviously didn't think the information contain therein was relevant to their case?
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Re: The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2003, 10:03:10 AM »
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Bill, Fleecy and Randy didnt invest money in the company, they found a VC to do that, the 1.8 million that Bill says is owed to the big 3 is back salaries, they like the rest have missed paychecks for 15 months.

Half a million a year each, for a company that's unlikely to have a turnover of even half of one of those salaries in a whole year?

Gosh! Makes you think, doesn't it?
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