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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful?
« on: October 02, 2003, 10:22:51 PM »
...and then you woke up.
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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2003, 11:20:30 PM »
@fatman2021

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If you ask any one that used Microsoft Windows then you would know that they don't like using it and that they would give anything to have a Microsoft Windows replacement.

If if that were true - and it isn't - what does it have to do with the price of fish?

I have news for you: most people don't buy computers because of the operating system. No one is going to switch to AmigaOS4 and buy an AmigaOne just because they don't like something about Windows.
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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2003, 11:49:42 PM »
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People will buy it because it?s the better computer system.


Based on what? The hardware is mediocre and expensive. The operating system is primitive and most likely relatively unstable, and the software base is non-existent.  There is nothing innovative or exciting about any of it, except for the fanatics.

But the real reason it has no chance of getting anywhere is that it is based on the needs of people with a tenuous grip on reality. Those who cannot understand the real markets cannot produce what those markets require.
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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2003, 12:26:08 AM »
@Tomas

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AmigaOS primitive?

Yes, by today's standards it most certainly is.
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The first multimedia OS with decent multitasking?

2003, not 1985...
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sure it is a bit outdated, but that is what hyperion is doing now, making it modern....

Not so far. So far, all they're doing is re-writing a lot of the old stuff. The design isn't radically different, and the OS still lacks a lot of the features one expects as standard elsewhere.
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All my amiga systems has been way more stable than any wintel pcs i have touched...

That's never been my experience.
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Sure, it crashes if you run a buggy program, but atleast the OS itself is rock solid as long as you run good programs.

That's a pointless argument. The OS itself is fine as long as nothing crashes it. Same applies to all other operating systems. There's always something else that causes the crash, such as bad drivers or buggy apps. A stable and robust OS doesn't fall over when crashes happen though, which can never be said of AmigaOS.
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Thogh this will be fixed when memory protection will be added...

Windows has had memory protection for a long time - it hasn't stopped it crashing, even now. Memory protection alone won't make for a stable OS.
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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2003, 02:42:51 AM »
@Valan

There is a place for the "consumer" computers you describe, and also a place for the "traditional" computers. They serve differents needs.

The consumer appliance approach does simplify things by hiding everything away, but it removes choice. You get the appliance and use it exactly as it was set up to work. If you need something else, you will have to get a different appliance.

The traditional desktop computer approach is more complex. yes, but it gives infinitely more choice and freedom, neither of which are available from the appliance.

At the end of the day, it depends on whom you are targeting with the product.
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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful…
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003, 06:43:55 PM »
@legion

Try to have an original thought of your own. Thinking is so important.

Seriously, if that's meant to be an example of a comment that needs moderation, perhaps you're getting too used to places like AW.net.

While my comment was specific to AmigaOS4/AmigaOne (because that's what this thread is about), it does in fact apply nearly as much to MorphOS/Pegasos, except that the Pegasos is not quite as expensive.

If that's the sort of comment that deserves moderation, we're really beyond hope.
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Re: Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful…
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2003, 07:18:17 PM »
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Forget it. legion was aping my earlier comment about AmigaOS4 but inserting Pegasos/MorphOS instead.

The trouble is that he took the comment out of context and then applied his own deduction as to what it meant.

Yes, both MOS and AOS4 will most likely be relatively unstable when compared to either XP, Win2k or Linux (and probably MacOS X, though I have no experience of that whatsoever).  It's a matter of legacy and design, not competence on the part of the programmers.
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