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Re: men.... feck linux!
« on: June 30, 2004, 07:55:02 PM »
Uhm. IIRC, Slackware has shorter install time than XP. And it runs less services than standard RH or Mandrake. If you dislike big and bloated GUIs, try FVWM. It is small and quite fast. There are ready to use perl scripts to make it act close to few other WM or even OSes.

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Re: men.... feck linux!
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2004, 08:47:04 PM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Man, Linux sucks big time.
I use Mandrake 9.2. The gui is dog slow on my Pentium II 350 + [cut]


    Well, if you run Mandrake, it's no wonder you think that Linux is bad for your health. :-D All those distributions that are hyped UserFriendly are usually overfeatured and bloated. Strength of Linux and it's distributions lays usually in ability to tailor it to ones needs. Unfortunately, it means that you have to get under the hood and tinker with it. If you don't want to, well, you get it for free. While I disagree with the argument, that crappy software is crappy when closed and not crappy when opened, still, it explains a little. :-)

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Re: men.... feck linux!
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2004, 09:23:14 PM »
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 Perhaps that is a worthy programming project? Developing a new graphics infrastructure for Linux? Much better than writing yet another toolkit if you ask me.


Weeks ago almost every single distribution I know dumped XWindow in favor of X.org.

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Re: men.... feck linux!
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2004, 09:44:09 PM »
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Linux builds are so abstracted that practically anything UNIX will run. The downside is that they are damn slow and built on ancient standards, and pretty much require you to do things the UNIX way whether you want to or not.

Windows is faster than Linux overall, but speed isn't everything.


   I disagree. First: which Windows? My LFS runs my box faster and more reliably that Windows 2000. I can do more tasks at the same time. And there is, of course, the question, wheter doing things UNIX way is a bad thing?

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Or, maybe I'm just pissed that so many Perl books do a sucky job of teaching people how to write actual perl code. Doesn't anyone know how to use this language properly?


    As do many books on programming in C, using APIs and so on... There are also good books on Perl out there.

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Re: men.... feck linux!
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2004, 10:10:57 PM »
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Long live the GUI, down with command lines.


    I find it useful, when I can fit full rescue system on one floppy. I also don't know, why should I install GUI on a server, where it would only waste reasources.

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Re: men.... feck linux!
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2004, 10:42:38 PM »
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So far I've tried more Linux from Kernel 1.1 through 2.4, I have to say that as time has gone on problems with daft errors, dependancies, and sloppy distros have gone through the roof. This isn't the fault of the kernel, more that distros are including too much software, and making a full install the only working configuration ...


    Try Slackware (http://www.slackware.com/). No dependencies, minimal default installation. Or, if your have time: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/. Everything your way. :-) (OK., that your way was a joke, I know :-D.)

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Re: men.... feck linux!
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2004, 11:19:54 PM »
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Exactly my feelings... Even when Amiga crash you know what you'd done 'wrong' so you wouldn't do it next time, heck even my father could spot what he could or couldn't do... :-D on Windows (and on linux too), most time you get an halted application which one doesn't know if it crashed or is just hanged up for no apparent reason...


    Well, actually, when Guru meditation happened, it looked like a lottery. On A500 I wasn't able to tell the reason most of the time. On Linux, when application hangs, in most cases you will know after you issue ,,ps''. A sittuation when whole system hangs or crashes is a rarity. It's true, that Linux distros that I know seem to be a bit harder than Windows, but I think that it's a good trade for stability and abilities.

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