It's 20 years on, and Windows still doesn't have...

[KimmoK]

I'm annoyed how slow windows has grown. At work we still use XP, win7 should come at the end of this year.
On some 2.4Ghz Core2 IBM laptop evertything is a little bit like slow motion. The CPU performance does not seem to be enough for fluent word processing. Luckily coding in text editor (I use notepad++) is still fast. Web browsing is not much faster than on SAM, etc.
Well, I hope I get new HW for win7. The GPU of this sh*t can only output 1650x1000 or something, not good enough to use big LCD display for coding.

On our tester PCs we have more CPU performance, but because windows still can not cope well with serial devices, when a lot of instrumentation control is ongoing, that HW is even slower than this laptop. CPU looks idle but something is causing the system to crawl (I suspect some USB drivers put kernell to it's knees).  And windows on those Agilent(etc) scopes/analyzers etc... it's amazing that they still use it. Wait minutes for the meter to boot, wait after every button press for the meter to react....

[KimmoK]

But do you all realise its not even possible to play back any modern video on an Amiga

What is modern video?
In most households I believes videos are DVDs. But surely you mean blue ray?

Watching videos is not any core use of a desktop computer, but I think Amigas can play almost all videos in our household (except some few HD video files).

To me windows is a very poor platform to run SW on. But it has most of the needed SW, that's why also I have to use it at work, I never use it at home any more (unless I set up some emulator to PLAY with).

I think there are very few (perhaps none?) things where Amigas OS (or MOS) limits Amigas usability. It's the lack of SW that is the most usual problem, then the lack of MIPS.

[KimmoK]

@warpdesign

>What's more constructive for the Amiga ? Pointing out
>(eventual) Windows flaws ? Pointing out Amiga's own flaws ?

1) we must not blindly mimic windows, we must avoid it's mistakes
2) we need to be happy what we already have, otherwise this is sad hobby
3) we must not forget to improve things, look what is done elsewhere and do it better

> Apple is now the king before they stopped caring about
> Windows. Certainly not by keeping on insulting Windows...

Apple is the king of insulting windows. Just check official Apple adverts from youtube.

But the the reason for their success is that they are different than windows. ((THEY have proper multiuser support, security, stability, etc.)) They focus on doing things in smarter way, instead of just selling 99% sh*t to silly companies & people. (btw. MS is far better in HW than in SW, IMHO. ;-) )


(It would be pretty interesting if one day MS designed cell phone is best with meego SW) :-D

[KimmoK]

@lsmart
>Amiga will not improve. Maybe AROS will, but I am not sure. You may hope for some
>up to date software and maybe some hardware, but there are no resources for
>real improvements that will benefit Joe Random.

I think on this topic "Amiga" means AOS+MOS+AROS.

But your comment seems like the most pessimistic to date.
Every release AOS, MOS and AROS have improved.
There have been real improvements that are visible to user right after first bootup.

And (for example for AOS) updated 3D and multicore support is being implemented.
You think those will never be ready?

>Windows will change substancially, but it seems that they "improve" it for a different
>target audience than us: Sony Tristar, Time Warner, Intel, ASUS, D ELL, HP and Microsoft.

I agree on that. At work XP has been the only approved Win variant for a long time, interesting to see if Win7 brings improvements to user experience.
So far, update after update, outlook, office, etc. M$ productions have become harder and harder to use.
My needs on SW R&D have not changed, but ten years ago same things (around office part of the work) were much simpler to do. And our whole SW team agrees.
In the end... I'll be surpriced if win7 manages to improve things. First time since NT4.0 release?


btw... on this topic, I think also AEROS can be considered to be "Amiga". Is there any big thing that can not be done on AEROS? It runs also windows SW, mind you.