If only we could port Amiga OS

[KimmoK]

@GreggBz

It smells like KMOS plan is to get AOS4 on multiple devices, also mobile PPC devices.

Better support Hyperion to finalize the portable version of AOS (meaning AOS4), rather than do the SAME work all AGAIN.

[KimmoK]

@KennyR

"Define "fine". In 2000 Amiga Format was selling 11,000 copies, and this still wasn't enough to keep it or the Amiga going."

What???

In 2000:
a) Amiga Inc was offering NOTHING for AOS fans, people went for MOS & Linux & etc.
b) Amiga Format is not Amiga, it is a magazine, produced by some bigger publishing company that needed to maximize profits. They made more profit elsewhere. Etc...
c) It kept Amiga going. The proof: AOS4 and MOS

"AmigaONE's price and relative obscurity would be lucky to sell another 1000 items. As a niche it may be surviving (if not flourishing), but it takes more than a four figure user base and a bunch of SDL ports to make a platform."

AmigaOne is not the end of development plan. It was planned to be the stepping stone and R&D platform towards future.

[KimmoK]

@adolescent

"The AmigaOne is a joke."

No more than Peg1 or even Peg2.

AmigaOne is especially good as a hobby (anything can be good as a hobby).

"Eyetech's marketing strategy seems to be to raise prices and lower specs,"

How? mA1c is cheaper than A1XE and others.

And it's good that AOS4 is not tied to Eyetech or MAI.

"all the while not addressing bugs in their current designs."

Eyetech has arranged new revisions of motherboard to address HW bugs, just like Genesi.

(only their guarrantee system sucks) :-(

"Also, holding out for an OS that was promised years ago, and has only recently seen the public light as a test version,"

Now there is a concrete progress and usable and stable version @ the hands of (pioneer)users and developers.

Public version is more of a developer version than BETATESTER version. (betatesting is done internally)

"to run on outdated/overpriced/underperforming hardware is crazy."

Is there a better realistic alternative somewhere ??

"By the time OS4 does get released the majority of people waiting for it will have moved on."

Nothing new since year 2001, right?
I see a lot of people asking for it. (some also on non-amiga forums)

"A G3 probably could have sold in 2000, but it's just been too long."

Depends on the target audience and target use.

There are PPC variants suitable for:
- PDAs and "communicator" phones
- laptops
- desktops
- servers
- supercomputers

Surely mA1i is good if not ideal for a lot of embedded devices (kiosks, players, etc)

But also I would like to see 1.4Ghz G4 option for mA1C.

[KimmoK]

@KennyR

"Anyone who wants it can get it and be assured of a free update to the completed version when it's ever released"

Is that really the case? To me it's not 100% clear or sure.
And always OEM version lack something from the "stand alone".

" (if it ever does have an official release), so where is the scary part here that's holding back these thousands of waiting customers from taking the plunge?"

You said one by yourself: perhaps it never matures to official release state

Some people:
- are waiting for bugfixed version. (IIRC, this is the case with people like Hooligan and JoannaK that have shown some interest)
- wait for guarrantee to start to work.
- wait for ATX (or atleast bigger than ITX) motherboard.
- wait for more powerfull CPU.
- wait for second hand (cheaper) boards.
- wait to see it first
- have not heard about it
- want to see final AOS4.0 before they buy anything.
- wait to see wich is better in final release state MOS or AOS
- wait for hell to freeze (smithy)


I wait untill I have more time for my hobby... and that G4 is available again (but "have time" is the main reason, but when suitable model exist I might get one a little bit beforehand)


Other than those... I also doubt 10 000 sold units are reached with Amiga sales of just mA1c. (not counting possible linux version sales to china etc.)

I think a few extra thousand of ITX and microATX desktop sales are possible, if specs remain ~y2000 x86 HW level.
Other niches need to be pursued if more modern HW is out of reach.