Commuter shot in rush hour

[metalman]

Karlos wrote:
I really do not see relaxing the gun laws actually helping in any way whatsoever. Criminals automatically have the upper hand in that they would simply get (illegally) whatever force multiplier they need to gain the upper hand over whatever resistance they feel they are likely to face.

Law abiding Mr Smith and his handgun and conscience is not going to win any confrontation with Mr Criminal, lack of conscience, illegally armed with a machine pistol of some description.

Hypothetically speaking, in such a situation our erstwhile X-Ray would likely be in the morgue whilst the pathologist counts the number of entrance and exit wounds on his body. Along with whoever was stood near him when the situation escalated to the point where the burst of rapid fire erupted in his general direction.

Law abiding Mr Smith and even Granny Smith do win confrontations with Mr Criminal quite regularly.

Armed citizens stop Memphis street shooter

man shot, killed trying to get into apartment

Clerk shot at, returns fire in robbery attempt

Pistol packin' grandma stops robbery attempt at her liquor store (OK)

Liquor store owner foils robbery attempt

prof says tragic event turned around his outlook on guns

Soldier comes home early, kills burglar (GA)

Man with concealed-carry permit kills robbery suspect in Cleveland (OH)

Ex-Miss America shoots thief's tires
82-year-old wielded snub-nosed .38: 'He was probably wetting his pants'

Huntsville homeowner kills intruder

Crime rate plummeted after law required firearms for city residents

[metalman]

Karlos wrote:
@metalman

Should I look for examples having the opposite outcome? How many do you think I'll find, even if I just stick to the timeframe between your oldest and most recent?

An analysis of the 2001 year of reporting for "The New York Times," showed it ran 50,745 words on contemporaneous gun crimes, but just one, 163-word story on a retired police officer who used his gun to stop a robbery. For USA Today, the tally was 5,660 words on gun crimes versus zero on defensive uses.


According to detailed U.S. Department of Justice and other academic surveys by different researchers published in the Journal of Criminal Justice, there are about two million defensive gun uses in the USA each year, and guns are used defensively four times more frequently than they are to commit crimes.

Bureau of Justice Statistics

Why I'm no longer anti-gun