Happy Thanksgiving

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[metalman]

CannonFodder wrote:

But the story of the pilgrims and Indians having dinner, and sitting down together is not true. The Pequot had a festival to welcome in the new harvest. At that point, the pilgrims came over and ambushed and slaughtered them. The next day the pilgrims went to church and gave thanks to God for the food and success. That's how Thanksgiving started.

that is completely false

The 1621 Thanksgiving

Edward Winslow's 1621 Thanksgiving account, which he wrote in a letter dated December 12, 1621.  The complete letter was first published in 1622.
Our corn [i.e. wheat] did prove well, and God be praised, we had a good increase of Indian corn, and our barley indifferent good, but our peas not worth the gathering, for we feared they were too late sown.  They came up very well, and blossomed, but the sun parched them in the blossom.  Our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might after a special manner rejoice together after we had gathered the fruit of our labors.  They four in one day killed as much fowl as, with a little help beside, served the company almost a week.  At which time, amongst other recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming amongst us, and among the rest their greatest king Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted, and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought to the plantation and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain and others.  And although it be not always so plentiful as it was at this time with us, yet by the goodness of God, we are so far from want that we often wish you partakers of our plenty.

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mr_a500 wrote:
Thanksgiving in November?? You yanks are crazy... craaazzy I tells ya. :crazy:  (actually, it's obvious why your Thanksgiving is later than ours - our harvest is earlier because winter comes sooner)

Thanksgiving the fourth Thursday of November was set by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939, who changed it from Abraham Lincoln's designation as the last Thursday in November  The Pilgrims' first Thanksgiving began at some unknown date between September 21 and November 9, most likely in very early October. The "thanksgiving feasts" in England generally occurred on September 29, not in November; and the Pilgrims would not have observed them because they were Catholic holidays.  The date of Thanksgiving was probably set by Lincoln to somewhat correlate with the anchoring of the Mayflower at Cape Cod, which occurred on November 21, 1620 (Gregorian calendar, it was November 11 to the Pilgrims who used the Julian calendar).  

mr_a500 wrote:
Are there still any wild turkeys left in the US? There are plenty where I live - only about 50km north of Toronto. I once went into the woods in my back yard and 33 wild turkeys were there (no...not politicians, real turkeys). I'm serious. They "tip-toed" out of the woods, single file. It was a very strange sight. (...and I had not been drinking)

Turkey Hunters Top 10 Hunting Spots

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Karlos wrote:

metalman wrote:

:-o

Is the smiley rodgering the turkey?

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Karlos wrote:
Strange. You've never missed an opportunity to harp on about your chosen view islamic history during Eid/Ramadhan, dragging down a celebration into the mire with allegations of atrocities. Guess you aren't so keen when the shoe is on the other foot :lol:

I have no idea if the allegation is true, but I would suggest your "source" is not independent and therefore not capable of countering the allegation. You need something neutral. Good luck finding one... :-P

I'm for historical accuracy and the article by "Sundust Teocuauhtli Martinez" is a fiction of lies and fabrication designed to fit his leftist political agenda. He made it up.

I cited from primary historical source material, a first hand account.

The Pilgrims never again celebrated Thanksgiving although their descendants celebrated a "Forefather's Day" on December 21st or 22nd. Several Presidents, including George Washington, proclaimed one-time Thanksgiving holidays.  Abraham Lincoln proclaimed it a national holiday in 1863.

George Washington Thanksgiving Proclamation, 1789

Lincoln's Thanksgiving Proclamation, 1863

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Karlos wrote:
Strange. You've never missed an opportunity to harp on about your chosen view islamic history during Eid/Ramadhan, dragging down a celebration into the mire with allegations of atrocities. Guess you aren't so keen when the shoe is on the other foot :lol:

"I am a Muslim, I am fasting, I needed to eat."

Ramadan swan-killer 'needed to eat'

How does swan suddenly became Halal meat? Or is it okay to eat raw swan meat during Ramadan? So confusing, but that's okay, Insha'Allah.

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CannonFodder wrote:
The man is quite obviously mentally ill.

He shuld be locked up away from the freedom loving public really.

The court heard that experts did not believe the injury to the swan was consistent with a knife attack.
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Shamsu Miah, 52, is believed to have bitten through the swan's neck.
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Elen Parry, defending, said a psychiatrist had detected no mental illness in her client.
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Members of a community mental health team were anxious to help him.

:lol:

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nadoom wrote:
Maybe he had a bad day at work.  :lol:

Shamshu Miah, of Alexander Road, Llandudno, North Wales.

Shamshu Miah was found with feathers in his beard and blood on his face at a boating pool on Llandudno’s West Shore.

So you know him? :lol:

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nadoom wrote:
Metalman youre funny.. if you think biting a swans head off is bad, you should see some of the sick {bleep} your country men do, difference is.. your lot do it for fun.

For example cutting the head off a pig with a chainsaw while its still alive, did you know him metalman?

I doubt that story, live hogs won't hold still so their heads can be sawed off.

Some sick {bleep} your lot do for fun, do you know him?

It's a ewe-ing shame

AC/DC: dirty deeds ....

sheep shaggers and swan munchers  :lol:

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nadoom wrote:
For example cutting the head off a pig with a chainsaw while its still alive, did you know him metalman?

From the Ummah,

Saudi executioner Abdallah Bin Sa'id Al-Bishi discusses his calling and shares his favorite decapitation techniques. Abu Bader's swords have cut off hundreds of heads. He denies that he is cruel. He considers himself one of the most compassionate of people. (link to video interview and transcript)

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CannonFodder wrote:

[Annoying Yank twang]
So, whereabouts in Londonengland do you come from?
[/Annoying Yank twang]

Even Yanks claim UK asylum