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[BoingBoss]

Hi Gaiyan,

I registered on Amiga.org just to post this message.

That sounds kind of childish to me.  Are you still mad at me?  I am really sorry, I did not mean to upset you so much.  I am glad to see that you like the Amiga computers too.  See, we both like the Atari ST and Amiga.  They are both great machines.   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi jeffimix,

But doomy, I thought you only used Amigas and C64s and were an executive for Commodore

Actually, I love all computers.  I have owned, operated, repaired, and upgraded EVERY type of personal computer that has ever been made.  I have been working with computers since the very first personal computer hit the market.  The first computer that I ever bought for myself was a Commodore Vic 20, but I used the earlier computers before that.  My two favorite computers of all time are the Atari ST and the Commodore Amiga.  I also like the Commodore 64, 128D, and the older Macintosh computers.

[BoingBoss]

Hi MAD,

I once had a 520 ST and I think it was quite a terrible computer. GFX were ok but sound-wise it was a joke compared to the A500.

Did you try using your Atari 520ST's MIDI ports?  If you have a MIDI keyboard hooked up to an Atari ST computer many games will automatically play it and the music sounds much better.  The Amiga computer does not have built in MIDI ports, so it must rely on it's sound chip to do all the work of sound processing.  The Amiga computer was released six months AFTER the Atari ST, so of course it is going to be slightly better.

95% of the time, games were better on Amiga

NOT TRUE!  The Amiga is more powerful then the Atari ST, but that does NOT mean that the Amiga is a better computer.  In fact, even though I love my Amiga compters, I find myself using my Atari St computers more.  I use my Atari ST computers about 60% of the time and my Amiga computers about 40% of the time.   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi drHirudo,

So, you need more time to get the work done on the Atari ST than on the Amiga? No wonder.

NO, a stock Atari ST is actually faster then a stock Amiga.  The Amiga runs at 7.1 MHz and the Atari ST runs at 8 MHz, .9 MHz faster then the Amiga.  Also, I actually like using my Atari ST computers more then my Amiga computers, but I love them both.   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi HopperJF,

Do you have both your Atari and Amiga computers on the Internet?

I do not have any of my Amiga computers or my Atari ST computers on the internet because I have a Pentium 4 PC for that kind of stuff.  I use my Amigas for playing classic Amiga games, video work, and music.  I use my Atari ST computers for playing classic Atari ST games, MIDI music, animations, and classic Macintosh emulation.

Anotherwards, I use my Amigas and Atari STs for FUN.  I use my PC for making money and for work.   :-)

[BoingBoss]

Hi jeffimix,

Odd, being as I was flipping through a magazine of that era and it had an AtariST review that said it might give the Amiga and Mac a run for their money

Are you sure you read that magazine article right?  Because the Atari ST DID come out six months BEFORE the Amiga did.  I should know, I was one of the very first people to buy one.   :roll:

[BoingBoss]

Hi TjLaZer,

Yes, The Amiga was slower, but the Amiga used custom coprocessor chips to aid the CPU

The Atari ST computer also had custom chips to aid its CPU.   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi B00tDisk,

They didn't do anywhere near as good a job, though.

Actually, they did just as good a job.  Both the Atari ST and the Amiga computers were made really well and they do what they are suppose to do.  The Amiga was mainly designed to do video work.  The Atari ST was mainly designed to do MIDI work and classic Macintosh emulation.  And both have excellent games to play.   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi Karlos,

Go and buy yourself an Athlon64 based system - it'll "blow the doors off" any P4 system

Actually, my Pentium 4 PC does everything that I want it to do accept run Blood and Shadow Warrior without crashing.  I am going to down-grade my machine back to a Pentium III, 500 MHz.  That was the best processor I every used.  EVERYTHING worked on it and worked really well.  I still use Windows 98 Second Edition because I like it better then Windows XP.  In fact, I do NOT allow people using Windows XP to enter my game rooms at Kali Game Server.  I have placed a NO Win XP sign on my game rooms.

Karlos, Why should I upgrade to a newer processor when the one I have now works just fine?  You guys are never satisfied.  I on the otherhand am perfectly happy with what I have (just as soon as I down-grade to a Pentium III, 500 MHz processor).   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi FastRobPlus,

I think there might be a law somewhere that Atari ST users and Amiga users have to fight whenever possible.

I was never part of that silly little war.  Both sides hated me because I had both the Atari ST and the Amiga.  I thought that both were great machines.   :-)

[BoingBoss]

Why are you guys getting into this stupid debate about which computer is better the Atari ST or the Amiga.  They are BOTH great computers that should have won the computer war.  Ok the Amiga is more powerful then the Atari ST, SO WHAT, WHO CARES !!!!  Does this make the Atari ST a bad computer, NO IT DOES NOT.  The Atari ST is a great computer.  Nuf Said !!!!   :roll:

[BoingBoss]

Hi yogisumo,

Weren't the Atari midi interfaces added *after* the Atari started to have a decent midi software base.

No they were not.  The Atari ST computer ALWAYS had built-in MIDI ports and IS concidered by many to be THE MIDI computer.  I have one of the original Atari 520ST computers in mint condition still packed inside its original box that is also mint.  It has the MIDI ports.  Even though you can ADD a MIDI interface to the Amiga, most Amiga software will NOT "SEE" those MIDI ports.  On the other hand since the Atari ST computer always had built-in MIDI ports most Atari ST software will automatically recognize those ports, especially games.  Have you ever heard the Atari ST version of King's Quest Series and Ultima Series play a MIDI keyboard?  It sounds really nice.  Because of this I always have a MIDI keyboard plugged into my Atari STs MIDI ports.   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi Karlos,

Surely, you, the DoomMaster, you want to play Doom3, don't you? Feck, I know I do! It should be out sometime next month allegedly. It sure as hell won't enjoy a P3 500 from what I've read

Doom 3 requires a fast video card which I bought specifically to be able to play this game.  It will run just fine on my PC.  I probably will not like Doom 3 anyway because I heard that it is based on the Halflife engine and I thought that Halflife SUCKED !!!!  While most of you guys were playing Halflife Deathmatch, I was playing Duke Nukem Deathmatch.  Halflife may have better graphics and sound, but Duke Nukem is a hell of a lot more fun to play.  "Hail to the King, baby".   :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi yogisumo,

Stating that a computer is "designed for midi" because it had a couple of $0.50 midi ports seems like an exaggeration....

Because the Atari ST has built-in MIDI ports most Atari ST software "sees" those ports and uses them.  But, because the Amiga, Macintosh, and PC computers do not have built-in MIDI ports their software does not "see" the MIDI ports, so they do not automatically play a MIDI keyboard, but the Atari ST computer does.  This is the reason why the Atari ST is concidered to be THE MIDI computer.  Also, many professional musicians use an Atari ST computer to sequence and control their MIDI equipment.  Yes, like the Amiga, the Atari ST is a great computer.   :-D

Did you know that you can also hook up a MIDI keyboard to a PCs sound card and most PC games will play the music through it instead of the speakers?  It sounds really awesome!  The normal sound SFX will still play through the speakers, but the music will be played on the MIDI keyboard.  Here's what you do:

Hook up a MIDI cable to your sound cards game-port.  Then plug a 5-pin DIN MIDI cable from the MIDI-IN on the keyboard to the MIDI-Out on the PC MIDI cable.  Next, setup your game to play the music on 330 instead of 620.  Make sure that this is also set up in your Multimedia Prefs in Windows.  Finally, turn on the MIDI keyboard, load up the game and enjoy.  Make sure that the MIDI keyboard that you buy has GENERAL MIDI printed on it not MIDI.  General MIDI is 16 voices.  MIDI is only 4 voices.  Most MIDI music is created with 16 voices (the Drums are usually on track 10).  So, if you try to play these MIDIs on a 4-voice keyboard they will sound like crap.  So, get yourself a General MIDI keyboard.  The cheaper ones sell for between $200 to $300.  You folks that own a PC and play games on that PC should try this, I think you will like it.    :-D

[BoingBoss]

Hi TjLaZer,

I have a feeling that me and you are going to wind up being good friends.   :-D