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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« on: July 15, 2006, 01:53:03 AM »
Slightly more worrying is that Lucozade contains Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) and preservative (Sodium Benzoate). When combined they have a habit of fermenting to brew Benzine (a cancer causing chemical).

It was on the BBC 6 'O Clock News - Lilt was withdrawn and now appears with a different preservative, yet GlaxoSmithKline still see fit to keep Puke-o-Zade on our shelves under the guise of a 'health' drink.

And remember citizens: Guiness is good for you + smoking is a throat tonic.

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2006, 12:22:54 AM »
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Don't overreact---benzene formation isn't that important unless you keep foddstuffs outside of the fridge in full sunlight.


The BBC report didn't mention light as being a significant catalyst - the reaction was taking place in storage. And isn't it precisely when there is bright sunshine that people are going to want to drink Lucozade for refreshment?

... that bottle you leave on the beach in the afternoon sun... a ticking cancer timebomb!

(Not to mention new research that suggests the plastics used in the bottle can leak chemicals simular to oestrogen).

When you say benzoic acid is present in fruits, does this mean Sodium Benzoate?

Anyway, the food standards people weren't asking for the Sodium Benzoate to be removed from Lucozade, they wanted the Vitamin C removed for some odd reason. They suggested that there were other opportunities to get this anti-oxidant other than in soft drinks.

In fact, it's either Norway or Sweden has banned Cornflakes as the Vitamin content is deemed a risk to the liver.

But it's Coca Cola's ability to clean tarnished spoons, patios etc. that should pose the greatest warning. Have you noticed too that everyone who drinks Diet Coke is a fat ass?

(Aspartame has been linked to brain cell death as well!)

A good all rounder I've discovered lately is 'Five Alive'. It may be bottled by Coca Cola Enterprises under license but it features none of the crap associated with that American brand.

A good, still and refreshing fruit juice drink in a can with no artificial colours, preservatives or flavourings. It comes in Forest Fruits and Citrus flavours.
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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2006, 02:41:25 AM »
Cymric, I'm glad you ended your post with a reccommendation of water. Your knowledge of chemicals seems vast so I was surprised you even considered Diet Coke to be a thirst quencher (didn't they add loads of sugar to it in Theme Park so you'd drink more?).

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I once made a Diet Coke lollipop in the freezer but couldn't get the spoon out when it froze rock solid. I put it on defrost for a while but I totally melted the lolly and evaporated the water. What was left behind was basically a thick tar, similar to black enamel paint.

I don't think the 'Cola' in Coca Cola is the same thirst quenching 'Cola Bean' that Africans/Arabs traded for long haul journneys. The recipe with it's caramel colourings, carbon dioxide bubbles and the rest certainly doesn't lubricate as quickly as a glass of ice cold H²O.

As for the plastic issue it is a real, July 2006 issue right now as German scientists have recently published findings in either Nature or New Scientist regarding oestrogen-linked chemicals in (plastic) bottled water.

And why is it that mashed baby food from Cow & Gate, Heinz et al comes in little glass jars. Even purified water and baby juice in little palm sized glass jars. Could silicone be a more lawsuit-proof material when it comes to contamination?

Another consideration is pasteurisation - when the liquid is heated to 80°C+ to kill the bacteria, is it pumped into the bottle hot or cold - hot might react with packaging.

There is also the issue of aluminium in cans - aluminium has been linked to dimentia and Parkinsons disease and I have noticed labels on ladies anti-perspirents recently saying `Aluminium Free Formula'.

And why does anyone think carbonated drinks are more refreshing? The bubbles make your eyes water and you can't drink too much or you'll belch it back up.

Heat Wave advice from the Met Office suggests a cool drink of water (uncarbonated fruit drinks are a reasonable alternative) that be sipped rather than gulped. 8 glasses a day be drunk for full hydration of the brain.

And I might add that you should sip a little even when you're not thirsty as by the time you ARE thirsty you will be mildly dehydrated. If your pee is yellow you need to drink a lot more. Clear pee is good pee!

Don't eat sugarpuffs in hot weather either.

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2006, 03:12:03 AM »
What's cyclobutadiene?

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Anyone seen those MagiCool sprays in shops right now? They mysteriously cool you down somehow, the ingredients list is rather worrying though.

Would this stuff be classified as endothermic? Isn't liquid nitrogen in that category?

Another interesting thing I was thinking earlier... if the tannins in black grape juice and wine can block absorbtion of iron (Vitamin C aides absorbtion) and iron is an essential for a healthy brain... then is it reasonable to suggest that people that drink red wine are gradually becoming stupid?

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Also, ice cream - delicious though it is, is a dairy product and thus contains artery lining cholesterol. I have recently discovered 'vegan ice cream' in Holland & Barrett health shops and it tastes exactly the same but is made with soya-bean milk (thus contains Omega 3 & 6). A little off topic but it gets my thumbs up.

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Oh, they were giving away free miniature cans of Coke Zero in town today, nothing ground breaking. They'll try lime, cherry, vanilla, diet but it won't stop the inertia of people now realising that plain water is the best.

I had to laugh yesterday when an advert for the Dairy Council was showing these glamour models strutting about and it insinuated that eating cheese would make you beautiful. My fat arse... the growth hormones, cholesterol, anti-biotics and culture produced toxins are only going to give you nightmares and make you look like a fresian.

On the subject of anti-biotics, if a horse is given them then it's manure will kill all nearby plants and render the soil useless. Gardeners and eaters of horse beware!
 

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2006, 03:33:15 AM »
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Magicool works simply because when you spray it on yourself, the ether evaporates out of the spray very quickly, rapidly cooling the water droplets before they hit you, in the process. There's no mystery to it


I wonder how many innocent rabbits, guinea pigs and monkeys had to endure hours of spraying into the eyes, ears, wounds and mouth to test the safety of that!

If people want to magically cool themselves they should wear a hat and buy an ice-cream.

On the subject of atoms and all that: why, with particle accelerators and all this, is it still beyond science to turn lead into gold?

We've already grown diamonds, built steam engines a few molecules across and set off multi-megaton nuclear bombs...

And back to soft drinks - what is an emulsifier, what is acesulfame, how does a 'widget' work in beer cans and just who sells/regulates the E numbers?

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2006, 12:17:59 AM »
So if you collected enough widgets you could theoretically make a very unpleasant potion that freezes everything on contact?

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You really do ask very basic questions...


Doesn't someone's signature say "The only stupid question is a question not asked?"

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metalman: That drowning link appears to contradict the theory in the film 'The Abyss' that if you let someone drown you can resusciate them some time later. According to the stats most people get brain damaged and the best chances of recovery are resuscitation within two minutes!

On that subject, scientists were reported to have been working on a breathable liquid similar to that portrayed in The Abyss... is this what the illusionist David Blaine was breathing in that 'bubble' or did he have a pipe in his gob all the time?
 

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2006, 11:59:39 PM »
Slightly off-topic I know but haven't scientists worked out how a fish's gills extract oxygen from water and applied it to a device similar to that used by Qui Gon and Obi Wan in the Phantom Menace?

Is the level of oxygen in water sufficient to sustain a human without other heavy equipment?

Another thought would be that if humans exhale carbon-dioxide then isn't there a way to constantly recycle the oxygen atoms by filtering out the carbon? I saw some program where it said the Apollo 13 crew had to build a makeshift carbon dioxide filter using lime or calcium or something... a small, portable air recycler would prove very handy for a Mars mission or the construction of a lunar base.
 

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2006, 02:33:54 AM »
But if Carbon Dioxide has 2x oxygen atoms for every 1x carbon then some kind of splitting of this would be really cool for air recycling. Pure oxygen though is probably a little dangerous for space missions.



And with water, if you had a small hydrogen fuel cell to propel you through the ocean a future technology could potentially split the H²O into 2x parts fuel, 1x part breathing.



I wonder if anyone will actually crack the problems of perpetual energy, or at least increase energy recycling. If the sun is a chain reaction lasting billions of years then who knows what could be done.

There's some guy already trying to create a black hole in a laboratory!
 

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2006, 01:34:11 AM »
Five Alive Berry Flavour quenched my thirst thrice yesterday.

Citric Acid, I salute you!
 

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 01:56:55 AM »
MSG!

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2006, 10:51:08 PM »
Holy sh¡t... that would explain why the women in Britain are so fugly!

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I didn't realise that the oestrogen type chemicals could lock into the receptors for these hormones.

Can anybody explain how hormones work and how long it would take the body to flush out these plastic compounds from "receptors"?

Lately I've noticed a sign on a brand of bottled water stating "Do not re-use this container"... so I've started filling up a glass fruit-juice bottle each day... and as I've mentioned earlier - a lot of baby food comes in glass as opposed to plastic (even though glass would seem potentially more harmful were it chipped).

Did I also mention an article I read by chance in a library about children's school wear? It said about man-made fabrics from oil being used (polyester?) and that they were leaking chemicals into kids' skin, not letting the pores breathe etc. It reccomended natural materials like silk and cotton (wool is a bit itchy).
 

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Re: Diet Cherry Coke
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2006, 11:33:18 PM »
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