How Many here also use a mac

[vic20owner]

The monitor connector is a standard monitor connector...it's DVI.  I am using one right now connected directly to a DELL monitor (as a 2nd desktop).  And if you old style need 15 pin vga connector it's included free with the computer... am I missing something?

Honestly people who keep going on about how macs are for stupid people and that they are incompatible and what not, harping this one mouse button crap, are obviously ignorant to the world of the modern mac.

I agree, I want two mouse buttons so guess what... I bought a 2 button mouse.  Why is this a big deal?  This has nothing to do with the operating system or the computer. It's a mouse.

And comparing a modern mac to an Amiga (suggesting that the Amiga is better) is so tragically hilarious regarding both hardware and software that there is just no need to argue the point.  

I switched from Windows/Linux to OSX and I have never been happier.  Linux is like driving a VW bus, and windows is like driving a ford escort.

Osx is like a luxury sedan... it does everything the other two do, but better, and in one well thought out unit.

It seems to me that the reason people bash macs is simply because they cannot afford one.  It's a shame, I really wish they could because they are really nice.  

You can complain about the tellitubby look all you want, but guess what? Yes you can change it.  No, I don't mean with themes, I mean with Gimp. Or whatever graphics editor you choose, except Deluxe Paint of course.

For the curious, I show how to display the images for the DVD player in a few easy clicks:

http://www.cbmhacker.com/amiga/screen1.jpg
http://www.cbmhacker.com/amiga/screen2.jpg
http://www.cbmhacker.com/amiga/screen3.jpg
 

All of the images for the OS and ALL APPLICATIONS are in a simple subfolder... you edit the images however you choose.  That's it.

BTW, I switched from Linux to OSX on my standard PC (web server) at home as a web server.  Been running for a couple of years now no poblems.

http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

But now I have a nice new powerbook thru work  Our entire engineering / development team trashed our windows and linux boxes and switched to Macs.  We do primarily java enterprise programming via Eclipse running JBoss for the app server, mysql for database, and Apache for whatever PHP code we use.

BTW, JBoss and mysql come installed already with the os, and a full development GUI (X-code) is included also (free) but we don't use it.. (we dont write osx apps).

You guys just don't know what you are missing, that's all.  It's like the Amiga days repeated all over again except now you are the crazy fools.  :crazy:

LOL

[vic20owner]

You're right there... ctrl+click is right click and cannot (easily) be remapped.  Not sure why apple did not make remapping possible for right click key (although I am sure there is a way).  There was a way to remap this in earlier osx versions, but it does not seem to work with tiger.

If I figure it out I'll let you know.

[vic20owner]

Me too (now)


Smerf, as far as I can tell the crowd of "idoits" who use the mac is comprised of the same people who once used the Amiga.

Most were forced into Windows or Linux when the Amiga lost the race... and when OSX came onto the scene they had a look and discovered it was everything they ever wanted from AmigaOS and Linux in the first place.

A clean well thought out OS (no registry) with Unix under the hood.  How how could that be wrong?  Even the Amiga did not include a full blown development suite, video and photo editing software, and it wasn't even a multiuser system.

The way applications are installed and removed in OSX FAR SURPASSES what the Amiga EVER did, and it beats Linux without question.  No mounts, no editing s:startup-sequence, no copying files to the libs folder, etc.

Yes, it's similar but more refined, easier, and far more organized.  The entire application is contained within one subfolder which you can drag to the trash at any time.

Usually there is not even a "setup" program.. you just drop the program in your applications folder and that's it.

If you want to, you can even run an application and check it out WITHOUT installing it... then drag the file to the trash if you dont like it.

You'll come around eventually... if not, your loss.

[vic20owner]

Smerf, once you have really gotten an understanding of linux (and some of it's hassles) you should try a mac for awhile.  you will you really appreciate just how nice it really is.

I will be the first to admit that the old macs weren't that great... but hey they must not have been too bad because someone went out of the way to write ShapeShifter...right?

But the new macs are excellent.  It's not the same company anymore... Jobs is back and he brought NeXt with him and modernized it.  I wonder how many people actually know what NeXt is?

Think of the new OSX as Linux (actually BSD which is more stable anyway), with a standardized desktop, applications that aren't in pre-beta stage, and an install method which is simpler and easier to use than yum, apt-get, or rpm.

And yes, you can run all of those great Linux apps too... including X apps and desktops (gnome, kde, etc).

I went from Linux to OSX and now I am using a $2000 powerbook from work.  When and if I loose this job, I am going to buy one for myself.  I like it that much.

I haven't been excited about ANY computer since my Amiga... until now.

BTW, OSX is also free... it's called Darwin.

http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

Aqua is the desktop, which is not included with Darwin.

[vic20owner]

The new Amiga is coming out when the new Osborne goes on the market.