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Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« on: December 10, 2006, 10:32:55 AM »
For years I've been trying to identify a computer I used in a computer class in Canada in 1987.

I vaguely remember that it was not a "computer in a keyboard" but a small desktop computer - much smaller than an A1000 - with separate keyboard (no numeric keypad). It was either white or light beige and had a matching small monitor. I remember the name of the computer was something like "Icon Computer" - which makes it impossible to search for. The OS was command line (strange for a computer called "Icon Computer), but I don't think it was MS-DOS. It had a structured BASIC which could be compiled. It was networked to the other "Icon Computers" in the class. Users had personal folders and there was primitive security with logon and folder/file protection ...which I cleverly bypassed with a program I found on the network, called "UI" :-D.

This is the only computer in my personal history that I have been unable to identify and it's driving me crazy.

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Re: Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2006, 10:51:39 AM »
Now that I think of it, maybe they were just terminals to a central computer. I don't recall any floppies. And in 1987, a room full of computers with harddrives and network cards would have been much more expensive than a room full of terminals to a central computer.

Hmmm... maybe that's why it was so hard to identify.

I'd still like to know if anybody has any info.

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Re: Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2006, 11:34:10 AM »
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Back then it could be handy to have some extra information like the colors on screen and stuff like that.


Yes, I was going to mention that, but there is even a bit of difficulty here. I have a vivid memory of amber text on black background for almost everything, making me think that it was an amber monochrome monitor (common at the time). But I also have an equally vivid memory of a game I wrote for the system (which lots of the other students played during their lunch breaks) which had purple text and possibly other colours (meaning not monochrome).

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Re: Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 11:42:16 AM »
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It's not this one is it? Unisys ICON


Holy {bleep}! That's got to be it! Thanks! :banana:

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Re: Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 12:39:16 PM »
It is  a pretty obscure computer - custom designed to the specifications of one Canadian province. It looks like they destroyed every single one. They didn't even keep one for the archive. What a shame. I liked the Icon.

My 20-year memory is pretty good then. I only really got a couple things wrong. I knew the monitor had a swivel and was sitting on top of a small "box" but I didn't remember that this was all attached to a sloping bit containing the keyboard, "PET-style" (my degraded memory must have turned that into part of the desk or something ;-)). I forgot about the nice trackball too. I've always preferred trackballs to mice. I'm using a very similar trackball on my Amiga right now.

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Re: Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 09:01:48 PM »
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ISTR they had a GUI interface but it was possible to get to a command line somehow. Once I found the command line it didn't take too long to figure out how to get access to other people's accounts (there didn't seem to be any security)


Yours was definitely a later model then. The one I used in 1987 (they disappeared the next year) had only one GUI program - the "UI" program I mentioned. The program was entirely amber on black, but had a toolbar at the top with buttons like "Cut" (with scissors) and "Paste". It was similar to a text editor, but with extra features. From the command line, you couldn't bypass security (at least nobody in the school could) but "UI" obviously didn't follow the security rules. I found UI by spending every lunch checking every folder and subfolder I had access to. After finding UI in an unprotected system subfolder, I used it to snoop everywhere - including the teacher's personal folders. :-D

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If it was using an EGA monitor, those were "digital TTL" (you might remember this better from the Radio Shack Tandy line, and I think the C128 equally supported it), so amber was going to be one choice out of a 16-color pallette even on a color display. There's always been the theory that amber or green is easier on the eyes, and either (R+G, or just G) would be a bit less bleary than pure white (R+G+B) on a low-res monitor.


Yep, that's what I thought. So it was 8 or 16-colour, but the OS and most programs were in amber to be easier on the eyes.

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When it comes to casings, the Wikipedia article states that some models were made with a detached keyboard... and the pointing device was there because the designers had hoped for a GUI. (That said, lots of '80s-esque workstations included pointing devices just for drawing/CAD or simulation. C64s had joysticks even if you didn't need them for BASIC 2.0. ;))


Mine was definitely the first model. Everybody wondered what the trackball was there for because there was no GUI. Only the "UI" program used it, but I was the only one in the school who found that program. (..and I didn't tell anybody about it :-D)

Now I remember I tried to program my game to use the trackball but nobody knew how to access it. The teacher, and local "computer nerd" (an absolute geek - picture Steven Hawking...without the wheelchair) had no idea how to program for it.

After reading about the lack of software, I now know that everybody played my game at lunch because it was the only  game on the ICON. I thought it was because they thought it was a great game. Damn. (another memory ruined :-( ;-))

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Re: Need help finding info on obscure computer from 1987
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 10:06:07 PM »
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the bionic beaver :lol: :lol: :lol:


I never heard anyone call it that. :-o (...that's what we called a local girl named Sheri ;-))