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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« on: January 17, 2006, 02:06:56 AM »
There are lots of threads about essential Amiga programs. Check out:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19234

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 01:15:56 PM »
ABCdir is better than DiskMaster2.

http://www.aminet.net/package.php?package=util/dir/ABCDir.lha

Try them both and compare.


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See my ABCdir config:
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/2187/1_2176.png

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2006, 01:36:03 PM »
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DirectoryOpus is far better than previous both.


I totally disagree. I think DirectoryOpus is an overrated ugly bloated load of crap. That's just my opinion though and if anybody likes it - good for them.

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2006, 02:51:21 PM »
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ABCdir is totally out of date! I have used it and
it sucks! It's an old proggy from 1993, and it's
never been updated since then. DiskMaster2 is
regularly updated.


Yes ABCdir has not been updated since 1993 and that is a tragedy. But that doesn't automatically make it suck. Wordworth 7 hasn't been updated since 1998, but it still blows away the buggy, slow AmigaWriter from 2001.

I just tried DiskMaster2 again to compare and ABCdir is way better. It is faster, has a better layout (just move pointer to sides to get parent directory, more buttons), uses less memory, has built in shell, smooth scrolling, scroll up/down with mouse button and you can define 2 different actions for each filetype - one on double-click, one on left-right click. Can you explain exactly why you think ABCdir sucks?

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2006, 03:23:23 PM »
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You can use all this options with DiskMaster2 too...


Let's see:
"just move cursor to sides to get parent directory"

Nope, it doesn't work - you obviously don't know what I mean

"has built in shell"

Nope, I'm not talking about being able to open a shell on the screen - I said "built in shell" and I don't see one

"smooth scrolling"

Nope - regular scrolling

"scroll up/down with mouse button"

Nope - doesn't work

"define 2 different actions for each filetype"

Nope - I don't see it


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My guess is that you don't understand how the DiskMaster confuguration works...


I think it is even more likely that you haven't even tried ABCdir since you don't know what I mean for almost every point. :crazy:

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2006, 03:44:34 PM »
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Your argument that ABCdir uses less memory and is
faster, is not true. Do you have any proof to backup
this nonsense?!


OK, I just did some tests and you're partially right. ABCdir doesn't use less memory. Surprisingly it uses EXACTLY the same memory as DiskMaster2. I did an avail, ran DiskMaster2, avail - then closed DiskMaster2 and did the same with ABCdir. It was the same memory to the byte. (strange)

CORRECTION: I was only looking at Chip usage. I ran the test again and found that DiskMaster2 uses more than 2X the memory of ABCdir! (778240 vs. 355008) Don't believe me? Do some tests yourself.

ABCdir is definitely faster though. DiskMaster2 seems to take 3 times longer to startup and seems slower at displaying directories.

By the way, you still didn't explain why ABCdir "sucks".


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I posted this before I saw your last reply. If I had seen it first I wouldn't have replied. I tried to have a logical unemotional discussion, but you seem to insist on insulting without even reading or understanding my posts.


EDIT #2:
I have modified my post to remove an obvious insult. It is just frustrating trying to talk to someone who doesn't read posts carefully, apparently doesn't follow the logic of it, then comes out with insults and annoying statements when I'm calmly trying to explain.

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2006, 09:24:24 PM »
leirbag28:

If you want DiskMaster2 more similar to ABCdir, you should check out the one that Trooper suggested - Ordering. I just tried it and it's like a cross between the two. It even has the parent like ABCdir (left or right border) and the option to use right mouse button to scroll like in ABCDir (like I tried to explain to AmiDude - not scrolling with scrollbar!). You can even configure all the fonts. I think Ordering is faster than ABCdir, but other than that it doesn't quite make it. It lacks some of the features I like in ABCdir. It's better than DiskMaster though.

In ABCdir, to change any of the buttons, click the "D" beside the "VOL" button. The "D" will be highlighted and while it is, it is in config mode and any button you press can be configured. Make sure you save the configuration when you're finished (and click D again to go to regular mode). ABCdir config is tricky to begin with (especially if you don't read the manual), but once you start, it's easy.

Oh, and the crash that AmiDude mentioned has an easy solution (and I would have told him if he had been less insulting). When you have a button or filetype configured to execute a program - always "execute in background". The other potential crash - don't rely too much on the built-in LHA support. Some newer LHAs may have a problem. Just make a button for Voodoo-X or WizArc and you can avoid this problem completely.

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2006, 09:59:28 PM »
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If you can't take that then you're a pathetic looser! So, keep your big mouth shut in the future!


Maybe you didn't notice but I removed that comment hours ago. I was going to let it go until you added that last line on your post - proving you just want to drag this thread into a fight.


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