Amiga PCs on the way....

[ajlwalker]

"Our American lawyers will take action against this.

This is blatant violation of the rights Hyperion Entertainment secured in the settlement agreement with Amiga Inc., Itec and Amino."
(source)

Not another lawsuit!  Just what we all need, I don't think!

I have to say, I always found the naming of the AmigaOne X1000 rather clumsy.  Surely if they had the right to the Amiga name, then they'd have called it "Amiga X1000"?

I'm not sure I can agree with Hyperion here.  Has anyone looked closely at the settlement to see if this scenario is covered?  From memory, I thought this scenario was a distinct possibility.

[ajlwalker]

   This means that if Commodore USA has obtained a valid license to use the name Amiga, they're now signees of the agreement.

**EDIT** Actually as a friend pointed out there is a difference between ownership and possession: "The law permits a trademark owner to license its marks as long as the owner controls the nature and quality of the goods or services bearing the marks." So this clause may not apply in this case after all. However, since the clause below includes wording "including through sub-licensing" I think the only relevance is defining the legal entity to sue in case of disagreement.

Good analysis Piru.

Regarding the owner controlling the nature and quality of the goods and services, I'm pretty sure there were stipulations that Amiga Inc can exercise quality control over Hyperion products bearing the AmigaOS (etc) name.  The clause therefore may apply.  I may be a bit confused though!

[ajlwalker]

I'm afraid these events are pretty much the final straw for me.

I was interested in an X1000.  I have the money now waiting for it, but this just brings uncertainty.  I never liked the AmigaOne name, and now we could end up in the farcical situation that we have computers called Amiga that do not run an Amiga OS, and other computers called AmigaOne that do run an Amiga OS.  That is just confusing and will never appeal to outsiders.

What is more is that this CommodoreUSA can only use their licenses to produce computers in a keyboard style.  So no range of machines like there used to be.  How limiting.  Or does all in one apply to laptops, netbooks and slates too?  I doubt it.

I'm not interested at all in the product offerings of CommodoreUSA regarding their proposed Amiga range.

I've tried AROS, and it is hit and miss which hardware it supports.  I wish it luck, but I don't think it's for me.

I haven't tried Morphos, know very little about it, have no animosity towards it, but it doesn't appeal to me either.

I'm afraid I think I am now finished with the Amiga and it's array of flavours.  I desperately wanted some fun again when using computers, but it's all been trashed again.

I guess I may still consider a Sam460.  At least that would be a bit less money wasted.

[ajlwalker]

No just get lost, you clearly have issues. I suppose you must also be upset by all the different Linux versions and the fact that Mac dumped 68k and then PowerPC.

If disappointment counts as "issues", sure I have issues.  What can possibly be encouraging about another round of legal battles just when it looked like things were in the clear?

As for the other stuff about Mac and Linux??  What???  What has that got to do with Amiga?

As it happens I don't consider Linux fun to use, and I have never even used a modern Mac.  The old ones were horrendous to use compared to my fun Amiga.

As for me getting lost.  Get some manners.

[ajlwalker]

That's rather rude! What's this guy done to you to make such you treat him in such an offensive manner? He is entitled to his opinion just as you are. Clearly you also have "issues".

This may help:

http://www.angermanagementaustralia.com.au/

Thanks triptaka, I'm hope that's the way others see it too.

I was merely expressing disappointment at yet another (in my opinion) negative turn of events.

[ajlwalker]

I've heard of price sticker rage, now people are getting worked up about a brand name sticker. You should calm down.
I see this as a novelty item, if someone wants to sell AROS boxes why stop them? If they are not legit, why feed them?

Sure, like we'll listen to you telling people the calm down after your behaviour on this thread.

Good one!

[ajlwalker]

You've hit the nail on the head.  I have no idea what the other poster waas ranting about :s

Uncertainty in a market that currently requires confidence to succeed (the X1000) could be a disaster.  I really do hope this isn't the case and most people aren't disuaded from from their purcahses of X1000's, SAM's etc.


Steve

Sadly, since making my comment, I've seen two other similar comments on Amiga forums.

It's a lot of money to pay out for an X1000, and I do want confidence in my purchase.  I can't see how a company with such perceived small revenues can continually spend it's time in court.

To be clear I want an X1000 so I can run OS4 on it, not anything else.  I can do that on a PC.  That is it's only use to me.  If Hyperion spend their money and effort on yet another legal case, I can only see it doing them and their product harm.  This discourages me from parting with my money.

[ajlwalker]

If I had the money for an x1000, I'd stuff it all into a cannon and fire it off into the atmosphere.
If you want to do something useful with the money buy an FPGA arcade, a PC and put the rest into an AROS bounty for porting the kickstart and whatever graphics card you use.

I don't want an FPGA Arcade.  I've got two PCs (desktop and laptop) and they are uninspiring.  Maybe I will throw a few £ at the AROS bounties.

No, I think I'll stick to my backup, and go for the sam460.