Adapt WB1.2

[evil_nerd]

Hello,

I wanna adapt WorkBench a bit, but I don't know if it's possible... When I look at those screenshots I see some pretty customations, but those all are Workbench 3.9 or something like that. I would really like to adapt it in some way, like other fonts, other icons, other colors. I know some of this can be done in WB itself, but how??? And if I wanna go back to the standards, is there some kind of reset or something? Or must I make a backup?

Using Workbench 1.2 :-P

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Line Art? Is it also named like that? Is that *art* also limited to 4 colors? And I understand I can't use png icons, but I've got a program IconMagic or something. I think I can make WB icons with it... And can I adapt the font of the title bar / menu and the one under the icons?

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I've got a program IconMagic or something. I think I can make WB icons with it...

That wouldn't be MagicIcons? If so, it requires kickstart 2.0+quote]

WTF :-o  My Amiga has kickstart 1.2 and it has that program with it :-?  Probably the previous owner was crazy, it was a copy he made probably from another Amiga user. It also came with Workbench 1.2 and 1.3 :-o  :-?

Boy, that man was crazy :-P  :lol:

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Oh, then he's less foolish then I first thought :-P

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Karlos wrote:
@evil_nerd

Unless you have really good reasons to stick with it, my main advice would be to ditch 1.2 and see about getting newer kickstart/wb. Even 2.05 is a huge improvement over 1.2 and you can get 3.1 before you have to consider getting a faster CPU (that is 3.5/3.9 need at least 68020).

Mwa, probably not going to use WB to much... Its just fun to get it some nicer. Maybe it is nice and I'm going to buy 3.1  :-D  Not yet :-P

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alx wrote:

Actually, it's limited to a single color.

I'm sure I remember some little prog that might have come with an Amiga magazine that allowed 4-colour backdrops under 1.3 (dunno about 1.2) - IIRC it came with a pic of a butterfly as an example - I'll see if I can find what it was...

BTW do the little apps that use the copper to draw one of the pens (eg Magic Copper/Copper Daemon) need a newer WB?  If not, that could be a way to get a nice effect with 4 colours :-D

http://www.aminet.net/util/wb/copperfa.readme

maybe? :-?

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Ok this may be a stupid question. Why is WB1.2 so UGLY :lol:  The Amiga could show much more colors... Is there some kind of shell replasement? :-D

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That's true, compared to Windoze 2 (YUK!!!) its quite nice actually :-D

Then I'm gonna do it with it 8-)

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alx wrote:

Actually, it's limited to a single color.

I'm sure I remember some little prog that might have come with an Amiga magazine that allowed 4-colour backdrops under 1.3 (dunno about 1.2) - IIRC it came with a pic of a butterfly as an example - I'll see if I can find what it was...

BTW do the little apps that use the copper to draw one of the pens (eg Magic Copper/Copper Daemon) need a newer WB?  If not, that could be a way to get a nice effect with 4 colours :-D

So with this program it would be possible to do something like a Boing Ball or something to? Anybody knows the name of this app? :-)

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alx wrote:
@evil_nerd

There is one program I definitely can remember called "WBStripes" or something, that made gradient stripes on you workbench backgound - it definitely worked with WB1.3  There are a few other eye candy things I've got around somewhere, like "Exploding Windows", which made windows do a little zoom effect when they opened or closed - hardly a subtle effect though :-D  Reply/Pmail/Email me if you want me to have a dig around for them.

It would be nice if you had the time to do that, but I'd suppose you can use your time in a better way :-P

Only prob is that I can't find anything for WB1.2/1.3 on Aminet... :-(

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alx wrote:

It would be nice if you had the time to do that, but I'd suppose you can use your time in a better way :-P

Actually, you're lucky - they're both on a disk that I've disk2FDIed onto my PC - I'll see if I can seperate them out and email them (I'm assuming you can transfer stuff to your Amiga - do you want an ADF or an LHA?)

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I see no copyright issues with 15 year old PD, so I've uploaded them for you all to enjoy (a bit of sarcasm there - although they do actually work on modern systems, you'd probably be crazy to use them :-D )  Exploding Windows Stripes ("stripes 0 1 0 0 0" seems to give a reasonable effect and "stripes 2 5 1 8 0" tints your menus (BTW if you've got an NTSC system the last number should be 1) - run the program with wrong parameters to view help).  If these have Amiga or windoze viri don't blame me.

I'm testing it in an emulation, but I can't figure out how to use it :-( Must I use CLI? How do I enter the hardfile that they are in :-?  Must I use a run command?

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alx wrote:
They're not hardfiles - they're just the actual programs.  You need to get them into your emulation environment somehow - one way would be to put them in a directory and mount that as a hard drive under UAE (no idea if WB1.2 would recognise a hard drive, so you might have to use a more recent version).

To run them, you could then go into the cli and go to their drawer.  Then type in "ew" or "stripes" (with parameters, as above).  You could launch them from the WB (by double-clicking them, entering in arguments and clicking "OK", but they don't have icons and IIRC WB1.x cannot view files without icons.

To make them load up whenever you load a disk, edit s:startup-sequence with notepad or whatever the WB1.x texteditor is and add something like:

run stripes 0 1 0 0 1
run >nil: ew

That's assuming that they're in your C: drawer

Yes, I'd add the directorie. But how to enter the drawer? CD or something? :-o

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Workbench 1.3 looking boring?

friggin' hell, I I had to work with monochromous ASCII DOS (command line only) 'till 1994 or so (and even after, I hardly used it for games 'till 1997), because Windows just consumed a hell of a lot memory and did not add much functionality.

No, Workbench was the best, compared to it's competitors.

Maybe you should get an A1200 with WB3.1, besides your A500 to fancy stuff up :-) (plus you got good compatability for more games, with OCS, ECS and AGA)

You're apsolutely right! It was beatyfull for it's time, and I would first go for functionality, but it's just fun to have at least a nice backgroud... Yes, I should get an A1200 with Harddrive, CD-Rom, AmigaOS 3.9 (that's soooooooooooooooooo nice :-D ) and all the things, but first let me discover the A500 :-D

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Ilwrath wrote:
I'm pretty sure you need to use the CD command in 1.x.  I don't think it was assumed until 2.0 and newer.

But, you can go straight to an assigned directory, or type it longhand.  (ie, "cd C:" and "cd sys:c" will take you to the same place.)

Yes, that's what I thought. But it isn't a drawer, I think. It is an appart harddrive it's not on the WB disk, so the question should be, how do I enter another disk/HD?

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Cool! :-D

Piru wrote:
With CD command. This is not MS-DOS with its' braindead limitations.

No, it's AmigaDOS. But it's a DOS version... There are a lot of DOS'es outa there, and I thought they all worked a bit the same... AmigaDOS, ofcourse, is much better 8-)  :-)  :-D