NetSurf 3.4 released!

[Dandy]

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I You should propably skip romupdates of BB2.
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What does that do with my system?

I backupped an old startup-sequence from OS 3.9-BB1, which included this line:
"SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET"

But I seem to remember that it caused an issue with the UW-SCSI on my CSPPC, which I use exclusively...

[Dandy]

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On the HD, the directory for SnoopDOS logs is also empty after reboot - so no SnoopDOS log.

Finally I managed to get a SnoopDos logfile:

"SnoopDos logging started on Dienstag, 26-Jul-16  at 19:02:32

 Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                                                              Options  Res.
 ----- ------------       ------     -----------                                                              -------  ----
 1     [5] rx             Open       NIL:                                                                     Write    OK  
 2     ARexx              Open       *                                                                        Read     OK  
 3     ARexx              Open       NetClock.rexx                                                            Read     OK  
 4     ARexx              Open       System3.9:S/NetClock.rexx                                                Read     OK  
 5     ARexx              Open       System3.9:S/NetClock.conf                                                Read     OK  
 6     « ConClip »        Open       CLIPS:0                                                                  Read     OK  
 7     [7] work:internet/ Open       SD0:netsurf_log.txt                                                      Write    OK  
 8     [7] work:internet/ Open       CONSOLE:                                                                 Write    OK  
 9     ramlib             Load       LIBS:version.library                                                              OK  
 10    ramlib             Load       LIBS:Picasso96API.library                                                         OK  
 11    ramlib             Load       LIBS:guigfx.library                                                               OK  
 12    ramlib             Load       LIBS:render.library                                                               OK  
 13    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENV:guigfx/autoditherthreshold                                           Read     Fail
 14    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENVARC:guigfx/autoditherthreshold                                        Read     Fail
 15    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENV:guigfx/usescalepixelarray                                            Read     Fail
 16    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENVARC:guigfx/usescalepixelarray                                         Read     Fail
 17    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENV:guigfx/usewpa8                                                       Read     Fail
 18    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENVARC:guigfx/usewpa8                                                    Read     Fail
 19    ramlib             Load       LIBS:images/bitmap.image                                                          OK  
 20    ramlib             Load       LIBS:gadgets/fuelgauge.gadget                                                     OK  
 21    ramlib             Load       LIBS:gadgets/getfile.gadget                                                       OK  
 22    ramlib             Load       LIBS:gadgets/getfont.gadget                                                       OK  
 23    ramlib             Load       LIBS:gadgets/getscreenmode.gadget                                                 OK  
 24    ramlib             Load       LIBS:datatypes/WarpPNG.datatype                                                   OK  
 25    [7] work:internet/ Open       SYS:Classes/Datatypes/WarpDT.key                                         Read     OK  
 26    [7] work:internet/ Open       ENVARC:datatypes/WarpDT.prefs                                            Modify   OK  
 27    [7] work:internet/ Open       PROGDIR:Resources/splash.png                                             Read     OK  
 28    [7] work:internet/ Open       FONTS:ruby.font                                                          Read     OK  
 29    [7] work:internet/ Load       FONTS:ruby/12                                                                     OK  
 30    [7] work:internet/ Open       FONTS:helvetica.font                                                     Read     OK  
 31    [7] work:internet/ Load       FONTS:helvetica/15                                                                OK"

Does this tell you something?

[Dandy]

It means it has crashed at the same point the NetSurf log was pointing to.

Do you mean the last of the lines scrolling fast through the shell?

Does the text "Initialising" (at the top) and the version number (in the box, bottom-right) appear on the splash screen?

The text "Initializing..." appears at the top, but the field for the version number (bottom-right) remains empty.

EDIT:
The "I" at the beginning of "Initializing..." looks abit strange, as it isn`t fully visible.

[Dandy]

Might be obvious / stubid question, but did you run fixfonts with installer?

Not sure if I understand what you mean...

[Dandy]

Netsurf installer asks "do you want to run fixfonts"

Ah - O.K.
Luckily I choose the option "Logfile = yes" when I installed Netsurf.
A quick look at this logfile revealed:

">...Installer will run FixFonts after NetSurf is installed.  Unless you have
>a *very* good reason you should not skip this step.
Yes-/No-question: Result was "Run FixFonts"...."

So yes, I ran fixfonts.

[Dandy]

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Does the text "Initialising" (at the top) and the version number (in the box, bottom-right) appear on the splash screen?

See my reply in posting #85. Does that help?
Do you have an idea what could be going wrong?
Please advise!

[Dandy]

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I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?

I just checked the rad version - it is RAD 40.1.

Is that the correct version for OS 3.9 w. BBs I & II?

Does AWeb work? It also uses reaction. Could it be a font problem?

Yes - my registered version of AWeb II v3.4 works.
What do you mean with "font problem"?
Once there was a so called "Euro-Update" for OS 3.9 by H&P, which I installed back then.

When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / users / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz

I can try this.
Currently the content of "Choices" is:

"theme:PROGDIR:Resources/Themes/Default
pubscreen_name:Workbench"

Shall I leave that in or should I overwrite it with what you suggested?

[Dandy]

That's unlikely to help, because the font used on the splash is hard-coded. I think it uses helvetica/15 (if not, it's ruby/12). Maybe try that in DPaint or something.

There's some unnecessary string copying too, which I'll get rid of, but I'd be surprised if that is causing the crash.

The options above only apply to browser rendering.

Hmmmm - so what else could be the reason for the crashes?

I mean - from the SnoopDos-logfile we know that the last action of the starting process that was executed (with result "O.K.") was:
"31 [7] work:internet/ Load FONTS:helvetica/15 OK".

What would be the next action in the starting process?
Obviously this next action somehow causes the system freezes.

Or could it somehow be due the "failed" actions in lines 13 - 18 of my SnoopDos-log in posting #83?

[Dandy]

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if you have cybergraphics v41 (or later) installed to
your system,
...

And what if I use Picasso 96?
Cybergraphix did not work with the Voodoo4 PCI in my Mediator when I installed the Voodoo...

[Dandy]

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When you start Netsurf first time, it creates choises file, path is something like program folder / users / user - > choises.

Maybe you could try to create it manually and put somethin like this to it?

use_diskfont:1
font_sans:Topaz
font_serif:Topaz
font_mono:Topaz
font_cursive:Topaz
font_fantasy:Topaz

Tried this - same result as before.

[Dandy]

I don't know how to help you.

I have doubt that you system has unkown failure, because a RAD problems. RAD should work, memory error? or what?
...

RAD: problem fixed.
The RAD: I had in DEVS:dosdrivers was v40.1 of August 12th, 2005.
I just had a look on my OS 3.9 CD and the RAD: in the Emergency Boot directory there was of June 22nd, 1999.
So I replaced tthe 2005 RAD: with the 1999 one.
And now Ram_0: ( RAD: ) works...

[Dandy]

Sounds that you have installed some unofficial stuff, could there be more of them?

I remember that some time ago I tried a software (Grunch?) to update libraries and other stuff. No idea what it all did.

Can you provide a list of things needed to start NetSurf where I should check the versions?

[Dandy]

http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/frontends/amiga/libs.c#n207
Pretty much anything in red on that page ^^^

O.K.
Just one question:
Are the numbers behind the red marked items the required version numbers?

Example (the underlined, bold number "37"):
AMINS_LIB_OPEN("asl.library",          37, Asl,         "main",        1, true)

If not, can you please provide the info which versions are required?

Then I can check the versions tonight when I'm, back home in front of my Miggy...
Thanks in advance!

[Dandy]

Yes.  But as utri007 says, you're probably better off just re-installing.

O.K.
Last night I re-installed OS 3.9, BB I and tried to install BB II.
The BB II Installation stuck at roughly two third while copying "vnc.library".
The only way to exit the failed installation was < CTRL > +< A > + < A > ...

After that the system rebooted. I still have to copy all my old settings to the fresh Installation, as well as to re-try to install BB II (and the Euro Update).

Then I will re-try to start NetSurf...

[Dandy]

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I still have to copy all my old settings to the fresh Installation,

Did that. All fine so far.
Strange thing is that the system asks for the "Emergency (Floppy-)Disk" each time it boots.

For the fresh OS 3.9 install I had booted from the "Emergency (Floppy-)Disk" and the OS 3.9 CD.

Normally after a reset my Miggy starts to boot, makes another reset and then, after some seconds, the control light of my monitor changes from orange (Stand-by) to blue (active) and then the DOS Screen appears, telling me that ASIMCDFS gets started, followed by the Workbench.

Now the monitor (flatscreen, connected to the Voodoo4) stays in Stand-by mode and apparently nothing else happens. But as soon as I connect an Amiga monitor to the 23-pin sub-D Amiga video out, it shows a white DOS screen and an requester, telling me to insert the "Emergency (Floppy-)Disk".

As soon as I insert the floppy disk, the system loads one or two files from it and then switches the video signal over to the Voodoo, the flatscreen monitor goes active (while the Amiga monitor becomes inactive) and shows the rest of the booting process.

How can I find out why it asks for the "Emergency (Floppy-)Disk" and how can I fix this? Do I need to insert "movesys dh0:" somewhere?

SnoopDos and Rad: are only available AFTER the system booted...
:confused:

I still have ... to re-try to install BB II (and the Euro Update).

Then I will re-try to start NetSurf...

I will do that after the issue with the "Emergency (Floppy-)Disk" is fixed.

[Dandy]

It must be something is system:s/startup-sequence or user-startup

Have you checked them?

It must be in the startup-sequence - just befor the "loadwb".

But I can`t see anything suspicious there.
(The Startup-Sequence is the same I already posted here earlier in this thread in my posting #81)

But the good news is that starting Netsurf by clicking the icon now brings up the version number in the splash screen. Subsequently I was asked to select the Screenmode.
After that the Netsurf GUI came up, but with empty browser area - and then the system freezes again.

Will have to retry it from shell...
EDIT:
Starting from shell with option -v now leads to a system crash with error number #80000003...
It does not even get to the point where the splash screen comes up.

NetSurf_log was created in RAD:, but is empty.