POLL: What is the most viable Amiga platform for *you*?

[Dandy]

I voted ""Classic" as I currently don't have NG Amiga hardware.
On my Amiga 4000 PPC I have an "experimental" OS 4.0 classic setup besides my OS 3.9 main system.
"Experimental" because OS 4.0 classic is not usable as main system on my machine, as it lacks USB 2.0 support and does not support my NIC - so no internet connection.
While the internet connectivity issue could easily be solved by getting a suitable NIC from e-bay, the missing USB 2.0 highspeed support is a show stopper for me.

I would really like to get an A1 X1k and play around with the Xena chip(s) - but working USB 2.0 highspeed is a must for me. Furthermore I would really appreciate if MOS ran on this box as well.
Or at least that OS 4.x ran on one of the MOS Macs as well as MOS.

I would really love to be able to compare both OSses on the same hardware.

[Dandy]

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we’ll all be using Cloud based OS’s like Google Chrome OS

If cloud computing became the only computing platform in the future, I would drop computing as a hobby entirely and focus on driving steam locomotives instead.

[Dandy]

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it's a license product sanctioned by AI,
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Who is AI?

[Dandy]

The Commodore of old DID sell pc clones, so it really is the same thing.

But they didn't call them "C64" or "Amiga" - they called them what they really were: Commodore 386/486 PCs...

[Dandy]

@ dammy & redrumloa:

Guess what, they are calling it C64x and Amigax and people can not be confused

Commodore 64 Web.It

Appearently we're talking at cross-purposes - KThunder wrote in post #75:

The Commodore of old DID sell pc clones, so it really is the same thing.

He was clearly talking about "The Commodore of old" - so it should be perfectly clear that I was referring to the Commodore that went belly up in 1994 with "they", when I replied:

But they didn't call them "C64" or "Amiga" - they called them what they really were: Commodore 386/486 PCs...

I have the feeling you think I was talking about C=USA of today, which isn't the case.

[Dandy]

Actually I understood you were talking about the original Commodore, before the 1994 bankruptcy. I was just trying to point out that a "Commodore" company prior to current Commodore USA did indeed market and sell a PC using the name "Commodore 64". The Commodore 64 Web.It was a flop as far as I can tell when it came out in the mid-late 90's,

First lets try to get a common understanding:
With "in the mid-late 90's" you mean the years 1995-1999?
If so, then you see me rather surprised, as Commodore International declared bankruptcy on April 29, 1994.

So I ask:
Did I miss something? How could they "market and sell a PC using the name "Commodore 64"", if they were already roughly one year bankrupt in "the mid 90s" (1995)?

And b.t.w. - today is the first time I hear that Commodore allegedly marketed and sold a PC using the name "Commodore 64" back in the 90s.

The only "Commodore 64" I've heard of in the 80s/90s was  this one - but it wasn't a "PC" (assuming that you're referring to something based on the Intel x86 cpu family with "PC"), it was called "homecomputer" and had a Motorola 6510 cpu - at least here...

A quick research in Wikipedia brought up a chronological list of  all Commodore "of old" computers - but there is no "Commodore 64" listed in the "Commodore PC compatible systems"-section.

but I don't remember the outrage that I am seeing out of some (not pointing fingers) today.
 

As far as I'm concerned, I'm not outraged - just confused by the "facts" you presented so far...

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Once I saw progress towards actual product, my stance softened.
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Where and when did you see "progress towards actual product"?
I haven't seen anything aside from nicely raytraced pictures of how they envisaged their planned products might look like - no prototype, no screenshots - but maybe I missed something.

[Dandy]

Are you keepin up with the Commodore?

CAUSE THE COMMODORE IS KEEPIN UP WITH YOU.

?

[Dandy]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly - that's the C64 I know...

[Dandy]

Hi,

@Dandy,

Sorry do not pass go, do not collect $200, go to jail, go directly to jail, you gave wrong information on the Commodore PC's.

The Commodore PC's where called PC-10 and PC-20.

Thank You,

smerf

Maybe you should follow the link I gave in my posting #148 regarding old Commodores PC line - there are the types listed you missed in my posting #121:

"Commodore PC compatible systems - Commodore Colt, PC1, PC10, PC20, PC30, PC40, ..., 486SX-LTC"

Obviously Commodore International marketet their PCs differently in different countries.
I only remembered the Commodore PCs 386 and 486, which obcviously were marketet as PC-50 and PC-60 elswhere.

Back in summer 1986 I wanted to buy a computer to study CAD. At that time I had heard of the overwhelming graphical capabilities of the Amiga and so went to a Commodore dealer to get more information about those systems.

When I told the dealer that I wanted to do CAD on it, he laughed at me and told me that the Amigas just were "better gaming boxes" - but far from being useful for CAD.

He said for that I would need an Commodore 386 PC, that just had been released and would cost 6.000 DM (roughly equals to 3.000 €), plus a good graphics card for 1.500+, plus  the CAD software for well over 10.000 DM, plus a plotter for annother absurd amount of money.

Note that he said "Commodore 386 PC" - and not "Commodore PC-50".

Unnecessary to mention that I ended up with an Amiga two and a half years later and that I bought my first x86PC as late as 2004...