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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« on: January 28, 2011, 09:43:23 AM »
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How about this for a fun poll:

Would you be more inclined to purchase an X1000 if you could run MorphOS on it?

Although I could probably never afford one, that would make it the ultimate machine for me being able to run both OSs. Getting Aros ported to it would be nice too, and is probably more likely.



I voted "No" and would even be more inclined to buy an A1 X1k if it ran MOS as well and - if possible - AROS and LINUX, too.

EDIT:
If it ran MOS I could take advantage of the USB 2.0 highspeed in the A1 X1k, while all flavours of OS 4.1 still lack USB 2.0 highspeed support.
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 12:46:14 PM »
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...
I'm still stuck with subpar OS that is not currently capable of doing what the common man needs a PC to do daily.  



I think the "common man" - even if his hobby is Amiga - already has at least one x86-PC "capable of doing what he needs a PC to do daily".

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Outdated OS4 browsers have me reaching for my iPhone to take up the slack, the SW simply isn't there.



Hmmmm - my main system still is OS3.9/WarpOS16.1 and on it I'm using IBrowse 2.4. Most of the sites I visit render fine.
And if there really is something I cannot get done on the Miggy in a timely manner, I switch on the XP-PC underneath my desk and remote control it with RDesktop from my A4kPPC...

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The price point is absolutely insane for 99.99% of their market - which is the hobby user.
People won't pay $2500 for nostalgia factor,



What's wrong with your memory?

Trevor said from the very beginning that the A1 X1k IS NOT for the average user, but for geeks and devs.
Which of the two tiny words didn't you understand: "is" or "not"?

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but that being said, I hope the enthusiastic coders writing for OS4 keep coding and the platform/OS makes headway.  



I guess that is the intention: to give the devs the necessary HW to develoop the OS towards 64 Bit capability and SMP capability.

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I enjoy my SAM, and won't be selling it anytime soon,



The same goes for my A4kPPC.

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but I'm also not delusional enough to think it can even come close to most "smart" phones in regards to daily use - and daily use in a broad "what most people need to do in 2011" way.



My way of "daily use" does certainly NOT depend on "what most people need to do in 2011", but rather on what I need to do at present.

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As much as I was put off by the fanboyish MorphOS guys constantly shit talking OS4, it's about dollars and cents, people.  I was very interested in the X1000 originally - until the price was mentioned, and had planned on picking up a SAM 460 until the retail price was released a few days ago.  



Here it is more about Euros and Cents - but nevertheless.
Why were you "very interested in the X1k originally" - are you a geek or a developer?
As this is the target audience for the A1 X1k, according to Trevor...

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I now see how attractive the cheapie Mac's and MorphOS are now.



Fine - then do yourself a favour and get one - I'll possibly do that as well...

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...  
It's very hard to argue against the commodity hardware (old PPC mac's, AROS boxes)  aspect when it is a $2500 (x1000/OS 4) vs. a $200 (Mac/MorphOS) situation.
...



You get it wrong all the time - it is NOT a $2500 (x1000/OS 4) vs. a $200 (Mac/MorphOS) situation, as the X1k never was meant for "the average Joe user".

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Everyone here can probably universally agree that the pricepoint of the X1000 is a huge stumbling block in regards to how it will be accepted.



Everyone here can probably universally agree that constantly and prayer like repeating of unfunded nonsense (like "the A1 X1k is too expensive and will fail because of that") will not make it any more reasonable.
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 01:30:43 PM »
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I think it is not what the Amiga we all want is about.



What do you know about the Amiga I want?
Nothing?

Then take a close look at the A1 X1k - THAT'S the Amiga I want!

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So we want a 2000 dollar "hobby system"



Don't know about you - but yes, I want it.

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or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?



LoL
How quixotic can one be?
 :-D

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If Apple could do it so could we, but without strong leadership we are going nowhere.



Yeah - a strong leader!

We have had a "strong leader" here in Germany roughly 70 years ago - and we all know where that led to...
 ;-)

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If X1000 flops and Hyperion runs out of money,



What does the X1k have to do with Hyperion?
AEon is responsible for the A1 X1k project, Hyperion for the OS4.x.
Get your "facts" straight, man...

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perhaps OS falls into new hands with leadership who can vision AmigaOS in the future along the path it was on back in 1994



Leadership like AInc. or C=usa?
LoL...

remind you:
1994 the Amiga and its OS were on the highway to hell - driven by Commodore's stupid managers...

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 -to stand beside and in front of Windows not behind- but now in the new millenium.



LoL!
What did you smoke - I'd like to have some of that stuff!

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And even if X1000 flops and OS4.x goes to hell I think we pure Amiga hardcore users wins in the end, that means AROS will keep the torch burning and there will be no confusion what is the no1 NG AmigaOS.



This brainless gibberish reminds me of the mental runs our "strong leader" honored Germany with rougly 70 years ago...

He was also dreaming of the "Wunderwaffen" and the "Endsieg", you know...
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