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RE: Schizophrenia, drugs link?
« on: September 22, 2004, 08:29:43 AM »
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T_Bone wrote:
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In the set of people who don't have schizophrenia, marijuana reduces the brains natural ability to produce and regulate antipsychotic chemicals.
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Why would people, who don't have schizophrenia, need to produce antipsychotic chemicals at all?
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T_Bone wrote:
...marijuana just isn't good for you, and has negative effects on your brain.

Nonsense.
MaryJane starts up the brain - and that's exactly what mankind needs most urgently!

Giving todays techniques to a wide mass of humans (e.g. cars, guns) and making them use these *WITHOUT* thinking about the consequences first just for profit reasons has negative effects on our whole planet!

As it is not very reasonable to talk about things without having the faitest idea of what you are talking about, you should perhaps start using maryjane for a period of - lets say 30+ years - and then come back to me to discuss our experiences.
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The fact that marijuana doesn't make people violent isn't a good thing, it's just the absence of a bad thing.

But the fact that it calms down violent people and makes them peaceful and friendly is a good thing - isn't it?
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As a devils advocate ...

George double u B.?
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...though, why should Marijuana be legal, when people like me, who have a legitamate need for certain drugs, have to go to a doctor to get them?

Why should it be legal in the US to sell maschine guns in the super market - possibly even to Teenies - while they are psychotic about possible terror assaults???
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 Why should a stoner get to take a recreational drug he can buy off the street legally, when I have to get special permission (a prescription) for drugs I *have* to have?

Why should a T_Bone get drugs at all (needed or not), while he is so valiantly against any form of drugs?
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Why do medical marijuana advocates not care that I need a prescription for my drugs?

Perhaps just because they don't know you exist?
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T_Bone wrote:
And why marijuana? Opium isn't destructive to any organs in the body, even if addicted to it for decades. Why shouldn't that be legal as well? It's better for you than marijuana.

How can you know what is good for *ME* and what not?
We do not even know each other!
But good idea - I'll give Opium a try...
 :-P
(Gebt dem Opi Opium, denn Opium haut den Opi um!)
 :-D
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RE: Schizophrenia, drugs link?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2004, 11:24:31 AM »
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KennyR wrote:
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Dandy wrote:
Why would people, who don't have schizophrenia, need to produce antipsychotic chemicals at all?

Because they're the chemicals that have evolved to suppress primitive drives. Without them you wouldn't think much about cutting the head off a housecat to see how it bleeds, for instance.

Hmmmm - as far as I understood what was written here, the psychotic people need these chemicals to suppress the symptoms of their illness.

And if they use cannabis products, you are afraid their receptors for these antipsychotic chemicals are blocked by THC.

May be - I don't know.
But as long as one is not psychotic that does not matter at all - or did I get something wrong?

But if one is psychotic and uses sedative Cannabis products instead of his own antipsychotic chemicals - I can't see what's wrong with that, as long as the effect remains the same...

But what do they need to suppress with antipsychotic chemicals, if they are not psychotic at all?
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Dandy wrote:
How can you know what is good for *ME* and what not?
We do not even know each other!

Because he (and me) are 99.9999999% genetically similar to you?

So you agree with him that Opium is better for you (and me) than cannabis?
O.K. - I'll give it a try!
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But the fact that it calms down violent people and makes them peaceful and friendly is a good thing - isn't it?

Yeah, right, then they get down to the last snickers bar and all friggin' hell breaks loose!

 :-?  :-?  :-?
I'm not sure if I fully got what this is meant to mean - please keep in mind that I'm not a native English speaker...
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If someone enjoys marching to military music, then I already despise him. He got his brain accidently - the bone marrow in his back would have been sufficient for him! (Albert Einstein)