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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« on: March 20, 2010, 04:19:44 AM »
Quote from: AmigaHeretic;548692
The cloud is convenient for somethings.

I think in the future what we will end up with is something that is more of a hybrid.  We will all have always on super fast Internet connections (many of already do) and we will all have our own cloud.

We can access our own videos, pictures, music, Wall posts from wherever we are.  

Opera Unite is already starting to show a little of this.  But yeah, I think it will be more of a local storage but accessible from anywhere and connectible to other "clouds".


The could concepts means a number of things:

Loss of control
Loss of privacy
Ownership/rights issues

Convenience
Accessibility
Increased retention of data (for most people)

Most of us have been in front of machines for a good long time. We see the trap being set, but we no longer have much pull in what shapes the future anymore. Most of the people participating these days don't know anything about what's going on in tech and could care less. By sheer numbers, they get to decide what environment we have to live with. When the door closes and they have to pay a monthly fee to use their computer and access their data, they won't even complain about it.
 

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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 07:03:34 PM »
Quote from: Tenacious;548761
It's already playing out with cell phones.  Ppl will happily transmit intimate photos, their GPS location, text their every waking thought, to get and use the latest feature.

"In an increasingly networked world, privacy and anonymity will be the most precious commodities."


And soon the iPad. Insert coin. Oh, you don't have the money? Well too bad, we'll give you 3 months to pay or everything you deposited on our server will be dumped into the bit bucket.

Folks pay an extra 5 bucks a month for the privilege to email themselves the grainy, lo rez pictures they snap on their managed devices, pay 4 dollars for a ring tone, etc.

Apple is probably the most evil computer company in existence right now. With the iPad they're trying to change the way folks use computing technology, they've said as much. A completely managed experience with a toll booth at every interface. People don't care about computers in general, they just want the content. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 years OS X machines will be high priced developer machines whose only purpose is to facilitate content generation by companies for consumer consumption. The digital walls are closing in, products made defective by design, it's on all fronts.
 

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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 01:11:17 AM »
Quote from: paolone;548838
The cloud is a basically idiot idea. Pretending to serve you just because "your documents won't be on your PCs anymore, you can access them wherever you are and whenever you need them" is plain stupid, 'cos this wonderful thing just stops working when you loose your connection to the Internet. So the right plan is: make Internet always available, anywhere, anytime, and possibly free, and THEN move all your datas on the Internet. But beware: people is not dumb, they simply won't pay a monthly free just to keep their personal data, feelings and life on a remote server placed somewhere else.


OH, they'll pay all right. Just like they do for ring tones, sending pictures, text messages, 2ml ink carts, net flix, itunes, software subscriptions and all kinds of other retarded crap.
 

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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 01:12:49 AM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;548868
You do realise apple have done nothing but gained OS marketshare since 1998, right? Windows is leaking 1.5% a year currently. What do you have to base your rediculous prediction?


Apple isn't interested in fostering an open and free computing environment. Everything they've done the past 8 years has been in the direction of a managed environment with toll booths all over the place. INSERT COIN
 

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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 01:51:40 AM »
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Over half of their operating system is open sourced.

No it's not. n\None of their APIs are opensource. All of the NExT underpinnings are closed source. All of their apps are close sourced. The BSD app layer sure as hell isn't half of the system.
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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 02:32:59 AM »
@Arkhan

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Re: Is the Cloud overrated?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 07:01:03 AM »
It's one thing to trust a company to take care of your needs for a price, it's another to have no choice but to get by paying companies just to use your machine. Pay attention to this distinction. Cut a line in the sand. You own your machine and the shit thats on it, for now.