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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« on: January 06, 2007, 03:43:56 AM »
ROFL ROFL

 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 03:46:33 AM »
LOL DONGLES!

OMG AMIGA NEEDS DONGLES

NOBODY CAN BUY OS4, PIRATES SHOULDNT HAVE IT EITHER

LOL DONGLES!











 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 03:48:46 AM »
ArghhhhhC and arggggggggv mateys. AOS4 needs dongles.
 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2007, 04:19:50 AM »
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Wow a sensible post at last! Thanks Tomas! Hope someone from Amiga Inc scrolls past all the crap above :P


It doesn't matter. Amiga Inc doesn't want to sell computers. They would rather give Wayne a hard time for selling mousepads .

Hey everybody, the future of amiga is in poker games in virtual machines and dongles.

And on the topic of dongles.... What the F is wrong with yall? In a world full of people fed up with DRM only the deluded people in the amiga camp beg for it in their wet dreams.

 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2007, 04:53:27 AM »
AMIGA IN JOYSTIQ, PERHAPS ONE COULD SIT ON IT?


Ding ding ding. I present you with this fine animated gif. You are teh winner. You have managed to post crap that gets posted every single day for the past 3-4 years. What the hell to do with amiga inc, joysticks and of course dongles. mmmmmm dongles. have fun with your sock puppets.
 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2007, 05:07:01 AM »
Props to aros. Regardless of whatever A INC does aros will be there for us. It's open, it's free and nobody can take it away. It runs on everything from a lowly 60MHz pentium pulled from a garbage can to a bleeping fast core duo.

 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2007, 05:15:53 AM »
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AMIGA IN JOYSTIQ, PERHAPS ONE COULD SIT ON IT?


The C64, Atari 2600, and Megadrive joysticks have obviously have done well enough for someone to consider making them in first place. By taking this route, Emulation headaches could be solved as the cost of do a production run of the chips (also targeted to real amigas) could be justified by the sale of the thing as a novely.

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Ding ding ding. I present you with this fine animated gif. You are teh winner. You have managed to post crap that gets posted every single day for the past 3-4 years. What the hell to do with amiga inc, joysticks and of course dongles. mmmmmm dongles. have fun with your sock puppets.


Been out of the world for a spell, am trying to get back into it - just trying to say what i would like to see done, and proposing semi-realistic business strategies to spread the word and get people buying. Sadly, we aren't going to have the luxury of having professional geeks writing quality software that runs on dirt-cheap slave-labour produced hardware :P


Your business ideas are not good. You have not given us any new ideas. You managed to post the same stuff thats been posted eveyr other day for years. In any case, A INC isn't listening. Thats the problem. People have been foaming at the mouth for 5 years *begging* amiga inc for a product and they never deliver.

There are a million obvious ways Amiga Inc could make a buck, and its all been hashed out before many times and they never do anything.



 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 05:26:39 AM »
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I've always hated x86 ever since my first glimpse of Windows 3.0 running in EGA, so i'm with you there.


Processors like run code yo. Sure some have more registers than others and different opcodes and what not... I write almost everything in C on everything from ppc macintosh, windows pcs, a lot of 8051 microcontroller crap and unfortunately the palm pilot. Different processors, different operating systems, different libs, etc and the processor is of little concern to me. So, as a developer, if the processor means almost nothing to me, why the hell should an end user care?
 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 05:29:33 AM »
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Your business ideas are not good. You have not given us any new ideas. You managed to post the same stuff thats been posted eveyr other day for years. In any case, A INC isn't listening. Thats the problem. People have been foaming at the mouth for 5 years *begging* amiga inc for a product and they never deliver.

There are a million obvious ways Amiga Inc could make a buck, and its all been hashed out before many times and they never do anything.


Ok, i'm not a business man, and i don't want to be - so in this case what ARE good business ideas? Have you thought of anything better? If you are that determined, why don't you show me the posts?

This is my first thread on this site, do you REALLY expect to trawl through years worth of postings to see whether someone else has thought of them?? I'm not expecting to OWN them or anything. They are just ideas. Try finding ANY *truly* original idea nowadays. Most people don't get them.

I can understand being bitter about the whole thing, especially all the hype that Amiga Inc. where dishing out after they were formed, but at least the OS has been developed to the point where it is usable and sellable.

I'm  just trying to prod them in the right direction - games compilations are popular, novelty joysticks are popular. Would spread the word amongst the masses. Would raise some cash and potentially get OS 4 ported to lots of other PPC machines.

Gah, people like you make me not want to bother returning - why the hell does everyone always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always seem to be pulling in different directions on this?


I'm sorry if my frustration and rants make you feel unwelcome, it is not my intention. You just happened to post something that gets my "goat" and I'm sorry.
 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 05:35:47 AM »
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There are a million obvious ways Amiga Inc could make a buck, and its all been hashed out before many times and they never do anything.


Ok, i'm not a business man, and i don't want to be - so in this case what ARE good business ideas? Have you thought of anything better? If you are that determined, why don't you show me the posts?
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Amiga inc is probably at a point where even if they wanted to do something they wouldn't be able. The lawsuits, the licensing, the debts, etc. They are roasted. If they actually sold a mainboard and OS there are prtobably not enough market to make a profit. Look at this efika thing, which is going to run MOS. Nice, but its only possible because their main customer base doesn't care about MOS.

Amiga INC knows that, they tried to market their DE and it failed.
 

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2007, 07:09:46 AM »
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koaftder:  Different processors, different operating systems, different libs, etc and the processor is of little concern to me. So, as a developer, if the processor means almost nothing to me, why the hell should an end user care?

Because assembly is, like, all of solid awesome and stuff!  Everyone wants to write PPC assembler!


BINGO! That's my goal anyway. x86 has far too many instructions IMHO. Way too much overhead, way too many wasted transistors.

OOP lanugages have gotten SOOOOO out of control, and are the primary cause of OS/Application bloat (seconded only by pure programming laziness).

On a side note, I also think it's inherently wrong to have any OS written in a high level language. Maybe the GUI, but certainly not the core functions or drivers... The parts that speak to the hardware should be written in assembler.


Contrasting the instruction sets between PPC and Intel Architecture is essentially worthless these days as modern chips no longer have a 1-1 coorespondence between their instruction sets and whats actually going on in the die, unlike older microprocessors.