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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« on: April 16, 2004, 12:34:47 PM »
I'm sorry to inform you all that I've also tried to buy a CSPPC 604/233Mhz from this guy. I saw his ad at AmiBench and asked him if he had any cards left. He said they all had been sold already. A week or two later, he emaild me and he said that 'a guy' claimed to have sent money to him, but he never got it. Thus, he had a card over and wondered if I was interested. I was, and we agreed that I should transfer 350 euros to him. He offered me several payment methods, but I wired the money directly from my bank to his instead.

This was 10 days ago. To my surprise, I found this thread when searching for 'Binder' and 'PPC'... I'd like to think I haven't been conned, but while reading this thread, I start to think that is the case...

The mailtraffic between us was quite frequent. After I recieved a note from my bank that the money had been transferred, the traffic stopped. I haven't heard from the guy for 10 days. Ok, I know, I should cut him some slack. He might have been in an accident or is on holiday or something. You never know.

Still, I will not give up. I called my bank today to cancel the moneyorder. I will also do my best to track him down. The world is already full of assholes; we don't need another one. I will give Berndt Binder the opportunity to explain his actions. He knows how to contact me.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2004, 07:27:24 PM »
@JaXanim

I agree with you, to a certain degree. Yes, sending stuff between countries can be a hazzle and the seller can not help this, of course. However, Herr Binder ought to learn how to take care of his customers. In our email thread, I asked for a quick reply when the money showed up on his bank account. He hasn't even done that. And in this forum thread, I read about people that have been waiting for more than a month.

Me, and I'm sure others as well, doesn't accept paying good money for hardware that 'might' show up within the next two months.
I'm pretty convinced that if there were a delay with his cards, he'd tell us. I see no reason why not. Oviously, people wants to buy. If he'd waited until he actually got the cards, he could easily sold them at that point.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2004, 07:42:13 PM »
Think it is Heusteigstr. 35
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2004, 08:09:08 PM »
@tangletown

True, my mistake. I changed to the street address instead. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2004, 08:13:04 PM »
@NightShade737

You wrote:

"Doesn't it give the house number or street name on the online directory?"

I replied with his street address, to help narrow the search
in the online directory. So, oviously, Jax didn't have his address.

Either way, I'm just eager to help in any way I can.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2004, 08:24:41 PM »
I just assumed that it's easier to find out what city he lives in, rather than the whole address. Ok, maybe I missed you point, but let's stop our little discussion right here and focus on what's important.

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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2004, 01:46:02 PM »
Hi all.

My bank phoned me earlier today and said that my moneyorder could not be cancelled because our 'mystery man' told his bank not to refund the money. So, whoever he may be, he's still alive and kicking...

I will try to make contact with his bank directly, to see if that can lead to anything.

@JaX
If I do get a phonenumber, I'll PM you.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 12:58:43 PM »
@cgutjahr

I sent you an email just now. Couldn't send yesterday. Sorry. Your help is much appreciated!

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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2004, 04:45:30 PM »
lo all!

Recieved an email from 'Tibor' a minute ago.
He asks me to confirm my address and he will send
the bill(?) and the id number of the parcel.

Let's see what happens...
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2004, 11:55:37 AM »
Just wanted to let you know I just got an email from Tibor Tóth:

Hi xxxxx!

I sent you last week the copy of the voucher from your parcel.

So long

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Considering his email provider, wouldn't a real amigan, who sell hardware to several countries and wants a good rep, have an emailadress without commercial in it?

Now I'm doubting if Mr. Binder and Tibor actually are the same person. Any thoughts?
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2004, 12:29:00 PM »
Here's a short update. I tried to send a reply to Tibor and this is what I got :

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
    (reason: 550 5.1.1 {mx022} ... User is unknown)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mx0.xxx.xx.:
>>> RCPT To:
<<< 550 5.1.1 {mx022} ... User is unknown
550 5.1.1 ... User unknown

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Seems like our friend has closed his account with the email provider, for some reason.
And I don't like it...
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2004, 12:55:11 PM »
Well, why not? Thought it would be best...
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2004, 10:50:47 PM »
I think there is a slim chance to actually get the money back. I sent the money via my bank, directly to Binder's account. Now, the german bank cannot repay the money unless their client approves it. However, if the bank finds out from the police that Mr. Binder is a fraud, under investigation, they may be more willing to do such a thing.

That's what I hope at least...
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2004, 09:39:52 PM »
I really can't see how sending a letter to the swedish police will help, but ok, I can't hurt.
If you want to include me that's ok.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2004, 07:20:41 PM »
@all concerned

I recieved a recommended letter today and indeed, there was a reciept from the 'Deutche Post AG, 72461 Albstadt'
(The blury stamp on the letter says Albstadt also).

The date says '19.04.04 16:58'. 'CSPPC 604/233 MHz', my initials and my country is written by hand with an ink pen.
The reciept seems to be genuine. There's URL at the bottom that says's 'www.deutschepost.de/briefstatus'. Of course I went right ahead to search for my package, but all I could find out was that the parcel had been delivered to some central for international distribution at 20.04.04.

Here is the answer from the german postal service site:
'Die Sendung wurde am 20.4.2004 an das Internationale Briefzentrum zur Weiterbeförderung ins Ausland übergeben.'

Translate, anyone??

There is also an international service phone number, wich I most definitely will call tomorrow. Of course you will be the first to know the result, as I post any updates here.
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