NG X5000 Advice

[outrun1978]

I am writing this post as I am awaiting Amazon to deliver the final components of what will be my new X5000 system having received a brand new motherboard earlier in the week, so I guess I will be able to tell you what I think a little later on, but judging what others have posted, I think perhaps you should take the plunge ;-)


I own a current NG machine also in an Amigaone500 based on the Sam 460cr board.  Its a nice machine, but I wanted something a lot more powerful..

People like to moan about the cost of the X5000 as a system but the motherboard and components have just cost me shy of £1650.00 ( I am recycling the Radeon 7750 card from my Amigaone500 machine  which is the only thing I have scrimped on as ive not had it for long)

To put this into comparison £1650 would have been the figure to add the following to my 20 year old Amiga1200 which would have left me with a system would have been less powerful than my Sam 460 and brought the A1200 to semi modern standards:

Rare Cyberstorm PPC card when you can find them on EBay £600+
Indivision dvi-I output  £129
Spider II USB  £60
Mediator Busboard £270
A1200 Tower....based on Elbox's current upcoming offering £300
Graphics card £70-100
recapping of A1200 motherboard £30-50
replacement of existing yellow keyboard and case  £100

I simply did the maths and decided to get the X5000 and support future development.

Now hurry up Amazon so I can start putting the bits together :-)

[outrun1978]

@cgutjahr

i think you may want to re-assess if the x5000 is slow....  just set mine up and already i notice a big big difference compared to the Sam 460..... even Timberwolf is usuable ;-)

webpages on Odyssey load very quickly...   really impressed so far with this machine :-)

[outrun1978]

@wlemonds

DVD drives are connected via one of the 2 on board SATA ports on the X5000 so they work straight away once the machine is switched on.  The other sata port will be used by either an internal SSD drive or a physical hard drive.  Plenty of ports too on the motherboard if you need to add a SATA controller for anything else you wish to add internally.

via the external USB ports (there are 6 in total) you can plug in all sorts of detachable devices such as external hard drives, USB memory stick, Memory card readers, usb hubs, joysticks and joypads etc.....  You can also plug in your phone and have it charge up or transfer photos across using the Photo transfer protocol.

Devices which are USB3.0 like my Sandisk multicard reader will also work as it is backwards compatible.

@paul1981

Yes the X5000 is quick,   Using Odyssey on this machine feels like a completely different browser  and am pleased to report from the games I have tested out so far in E-UAE i am pleased to report that  it works with no slow-down or any stuttering sound compared to the Sam460.  Tried this with R-Type 2,  Lotus 3, Slam Tilt AGA.   Snes 9x works brilliant, have discovered the delight that is Dirt Race FX which works perfectly with no frameskip ;-)

I know it is an expensive machine, but if you are seriously thinking about it, my advice is save up your pennies :-)

[outrun1978]

@wlemonds   well my external 1 TB hard drive works via the  USB ports without any issue if that is any help so i am guessing any usb based CD/DVD drives would do the same :-)

[outrun1978]

Or a completely different machine, running Odyssey on an X5000 is fast, its like run it on a Powermac G5 (while spending so much more money. :hammer:



Yea but that is old hardware which will probably conk out in a few years time....besides its an Apple product and i don't really do the Church of Scientology/Cupertino Cult ;-)

[outrun1978]

I wonder what those who complain about the X5000 being 'slow' actually want to do with the machine?

As usual those who complain the most are those who don't actually use the machine or have ever seen one.

The X5000 is my main desktop computer it has finally replaced my PC, I can watch DVD's I surf the net with little or no issue now, I write my blog on it, I play classic games with no slowdown, I play current OS 4.1 releases with no issue. I can provide from it if needed, I use it for emails, word processing, spreadsheets transfer of pictures and playback of my music collection stuff I would normally would have used my desktop PC for previously.

[outrun1978]

I didn't complain, I simply stated a fact: X5000 = slow. Somebody asking for advice on a 2300 Euro purchase deserves some honest advice, no?

You don't mind slow? You don't use it to do anything useful so you never notice it's slow? You're so old you don't see the difference between FullHD and a 320x200 video? You never browse the web so you don't witness the single core machine that doesn't have a decent Javascript interpreter slow down to a crawl?

Can anyone take the above post Seriously?
They say you should never feed a troll but the fact he has accused me of being too old to appreciate things when according to an interview in 2016 with Obligement he listed himself as 42 which makes him at least 3-4 years of than me....


Ill stick with my original truism that the biggest moaners are those who have never set eyes on the machine or actually don't use it on a day to day basis rather than resort to trolling and personal insults.

Btw this was posted from Odyssey on an X5000 which works pretty well with Javascript switched on and with a what some people would consider a sluggish 38MB fibre connection.  It's a huge  and noticeable difference from the previous Sam 460 set up I was using....

[outrun1978]

And that is the problem, people are quick to troll based on specs that they see and put this in comparison to other platforms but never actually try out the system on a day to day basis to make a properly informed judgement. All they go off is the specs.  

And yes In Amiga terms it's the quickest out there so it is only fair to compare the machine to what else is out there running Amiga OS 4.1