C64x promotes piracy.

[Linde]

You know, Digiman, there plenty of reasons to criticize the C64x without making up retarded **** about it. You're fighting windmills.

[Linde]

So you would buy a £1000 C64x and only use it with ubuntu + firefox + open office etc and not VICE + game images of a C64 mk1 which it looks like :roflmao:

(as there is no cassette, cart or iec serial bus interface you can not play original games)

Whatever I use it for is up to me. It's not promoting piracy simply by looking like a C64 and coming with VICE, anymore than an undertaker is guilty of murder for burying the deceased. If you really can't see the huge gap in your logic, I'm afraid I can't help you. But stepping out of sanity for a second to try to follow your unstable train of thought... why would I buy a C64 lookalike PC to run C64 games, when I could realistically get the real deal for a fifth of the price?

By the way, did you know that the C64 has a thriving PD and demo scene, with new free to use software being released daily?

[Linde]

well, yeah. In most cases, its piracy

No. There's a huge difference between enabling, supporting and promoting piracy. Enabling piracy (which is usually as far as emulators go down the piracy spectrum) is something that most things are obviously guilty of. Even basic verbal communication allows us to infringe on copyrights and intellectual property, as do a pair of hands and an internet connection. The ultimate responsibility to do the right thing in all these cases is yours.

What you personally do on your end with an emulator has NOTHING to do with the policies and goals of the developers of that emulator, something that they sometimes even explicitly mention in their terms of use document, in case someone who, like yourself, is unable to comprehend their own responsibilities and rights and comes along.

You also seem to fail to understand the difference between illicitly using software that you have not paid for and using an emulator. I guess mp3 automatically means copyright protected music and .avi files are only illegal divx rips as well in your fantasy universe.

[Linde]

Right, and Napster was not intended at all to pirate music.

Do everyone a favour and get over yourself. Nobody cares if you are pirating 20 year old computer or console games.
It's still illegal however.

Jumping up and down on the internet about how it's totally just for legitimate uses isn't convincing anyone, and it just makes you look sad and overly defensive.

Way to miss my point as well as what I literally said. It doesn't matter if you or everyone use emulators for software you don't own the rights to use. The emulator itself is entirely legal and does not (in any of the cases I know, including VICE) "promote" piracy in any way.

Even if your faulty reasoning was correct, as I mentioned earlier, the C64 (like most other popular classic platforms) has a thriving PD and demo scene, and as thick as your skull seems to be, you still ought to understand that this provides several legitimate reasons to use an emulator. I personally code demos for the C64 and use VICE primarily to test and debug my software. VICE contains tools specifically to aid development and debugging, because that is one of its more frequent areas of use.

PS. I'd prefer if you address the points I make in a reasonable manner instead of pathetically dismissing the whole message in a single blow.

[Linde]

Tell you what Linde:
We'll make a deal.

I'll give a **** about what you type when you can do it without resorting to petty insults and attacks.

Until then, have a pleasant day.

It's fun to see the guy who based pretty much his whole last post on ad hominem attacks and insinuations play butthurt to bail on an argument he's losing. At least I have something constructive to say between the crap, even if you think it makes me look sad and overly defensive. Maybe I should just get over myself!