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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« on: October 22, 2017, 08:24:42 PM »
Does the Gateway handle PAL and NTSC modes equally well?

I am curious on the modification for the Commodore VGA adapter. I heard something about this years ago but could never find any documentation on it. I searched Aminet and came up dry. Can you provide a link?

Better than that might be this adapter:

http://retro.68k.pl/category/a1200/

I mentioned it on another thread. It being a "buffered" adapter is said to improve the quality and eliminate things like vertical lines. I have heard it requires a PAL Amiga though but have not been able to confirm. No email response yet.
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2017, 08:59:40 PM »
Might be a good idea for you to send him a note also (contact link at the top of the page) so he will think there is some interest in his product.  :D

Good on your retirement! I hope to be able to do that some day.


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I'm not a hoarder by any means, but starting about 15 years ago I would tend to buy anything cheap I thought might be useful. Even back then I could see Amiga prices creeping up (I think I paid $10.00 for the VGA adapter). So, today, I have a bunch of stuff I never even tried - but remember I have! Last week was the first time I tried it out. And, of course started googling all about the adapter and it's uses. I have not seen the adapter you mention but looks damn sweet! Plz let us know when you get a response! :)  I tend to only research stuff when I suddenly get a hankering to try something out (like my A2000 stuff). I'm usually the guy that finds cool stuff only after it's no longer available. I have been REAL LUCKY when it came to all my A2000 stuff - especially all the Toaster stuff I have not even put to real use yet. But I'm gonna 'cause I'm retiring this time next year! :laugh1:  Ehh, I'm babbling.... + wifey is yelling at me to go to Costco with her.
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 02:45:30 PM »
I did it!! I finally found the instructions on the banding fix for the Commodore VGA adapter.

It was with a collection of other text files I thought I had lost. Some interesting stuff in there.

I am going to attempt this on a spare adapter I have. It will be really awesome if it does the job as it seems unlikely I will be hearing back from the guy in Poland. This makes me wonder if this "buffered" video adapter is performing some other magic or has just incorporated this fix already.
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 03:11:12 AM »
Great! So I assume it worked out okay for you? Any chance you can post a photo of your work? I have an idea of what I am going to do but it would be good to see what a completed fix looks like.  :D



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Yep those are the same instructions I followed years ago, I remember the mention of the genlock.  Good luck!
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 10:52:57 PM »
The lack of continued info on this "fix" over the years since it was first posted seems odd. If it wasn't for me stumbling onto the text, I would have never found it in a web search. Same is true with the -03 version of the adapter. I did find some on that but not as much as one would expect. Although, I know some people say they do not see the lines. They're very obvious to me, much like your photo.

The inclusion of "AGA" banding in the instructions is somewhat inaccurate as it affects ECS Amigas also. I think that came about only because people started to use the adapter with their AGA Amigas since they could directly connect their VGA multiscan monitors and use the new screenmodes.

I verified you have pin 15 on your adapter. Maybe the choice of ground is not the best?

I was thinking about just using one of the solder points for the screw mounts. That's a ground I'm sure.
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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 11:06:49 PM »
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Thanks! :)

I thought the same thing but I verified that my soldered ground connection is the same as the screw mounts with a meter.

Yeah, this is getting weird... :hammer:

I guess I'll leave the mod in place for now as maybe someone else may chime in with some magical unicorn advice. :lol:

Yeah, we need some more verified cases of this actually working, along with photos.  :)
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 11:18:13 PM »
I was thinking too. The whole point of this is to eliminate pin 15 from being connected, right? Sending it to ground shorts the connection, per the instructions. I wonder how difficult it will be just to cut pin 15 instead.  :D


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You know what? I just thought of something... the board is double  sided, meaning there are traces on both sides. I only soldered the  bottom side. Lemme make a connection to the top ground too... BRB
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 06:19:15 PM »
Interesting. A post mentions pin 15 going to pin 18 which is video ground for BLUE according the diagram I have. I wonder why BLUE. If it were to go to a video ground, pin 20 makes more sense since it is not specific to a color.

I dunno. My excitement for this has fizzled. I won't bother getting out the soldering iron just yet.
 

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Re: Amiga & the Gateway KX2453 24" LCD Monitor
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2017, 03:38:06 PM »
Here is the link to the instructions on Aminet:

http://aminet.net/package/docs/hard/MoniAdap

It too differs from the fixes already posted.