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Re: My AmigaOne Experience
« on: October 06, 2003, 04:55:01 PM »
I feel sorry for your loss, but this was a early/beta board, you should expect some minor problems then.

I think you should have asked for example here on how to replace the rom chip, sure you would get help... A bit too late now i guess though  :-(
 

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Re: My AmigaOne Experience
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2003, 05:00:18 PM »
but anyway... no way solder the socket back on?
 

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Re: My AmigaOne Experience
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2003, 09:12:11 PM »
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So your saying HMetal its a professional thing to do to tell a customer 'heres some parts go do it yourself'.

I am not hmetal, but i do think that was a professional thing to do. The AmigaONE was advertised as a early beta board, then the users SHOULD expect some problems, and also should be advanced enough to manage to do this himself. I think it was pretty generous of eyetech to send the rom for free, i have had experiences with companies which dont even do that.

He could have also gotten some technical persons to do it, would not cost much to have someone replace the rom.
 

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Re: My AmigaOne Experience
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2003, 09:13:35 PM »
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"it's dead easy,even the worst dummy can do it".

It is dead easy, if he used the proper tool to replace it with.
 

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Re: My AmigaOne Experience
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2003, 12:33:43 AM »
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You don't go buy a car and get instructions on how to change the piston rings, nor should you have to when the damm thing is NEW.

Sure it is new, but was sold as early beta board!! That means that you are a betatester... That means that all kinds of nasty bugs follows the board...

I am sure, if he paid shipping+costs for replacing the chip, eyetech would happily replace it... Would be expensive for eyetech, if they should replace every damn board for free.

A betatester should have some technical knowledge.
 

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Re: My AmigaOne Experience
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2003, 04:21:08 PM »
Alans response on ann.lu:
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@joe aka Mike Powell

Mike

I don't usually comment on ann, but I must make an exception in your case to put the record straight, as you seem to have been somewhat economical with the truth in your frustrated need to find someone to blame for your misfortunes.

First we managed to get your A1 system to you for Christmas, against considerable odds and with a fair bit of overtime required, after some significant pressure from your mother. We explained the nature of the 'earlybird' systems to her, but she was insistant that you were a computer whizz and knew what you were doing. The system was fully installed and working when it left us.

Between Christmas and New Year I noticed that you were complaining on amiga.org that it was not working, but again under a psuedonym making it hard to track you down, particularly as you didn't bother to email us directly. After finding out who you were I rang you and arranged for one of our engineers to visit you, a 300 mile round trip, to sort it out, without any charge. Somehow the linux swap file had got corrupted and our engineer reinitialised it, showed you how to use it and left it in a working state.

During the year you asked about an upgrade to a XEG4 and we quoted you the cost, but heard nothing more.

Three weeks ago your dad rang up and I spoke to him. He said you had lost interest and wished to sell the A1, but needed to show the prospective purchaser that it would boot into Linux properly first. He asked what was the cheapest way to achieve this, and we discussed sending it back to us. I explained to him, and you when you came to the phone, that although we were perfectly happy to do this there is always a risk that something will come dislodged in transit, or worse, damaged. I said that things had moved on since you purchased your Earlybird system and that we were now shipping the systems with Debian Linux and updated firmware. We discussed would have to be done at your end to update your sytem, and that if it was beyond your or his capabilities it is somthing that any competant local PC shop could do in a matter of minutes. We agreed that we would send you a new firmware chip and instructions on how to remove it, a new set of Debian disks and the installer CD, and the latest Quickstart guide (all without charge). You were to either change the ROM and install Debian yourselves, or pay a local PC shop to do it for you.

If there were still operational problems after that then you were to send the system back to us for sorting and we would jointly work out a less harsh method of getting the system back to you than via a courier.

The new ROM's, instructions, disks etc were sent off to you as promised.

We received a phone call from your dad today saying that you had asked him to pull the ROM, but that he had not really known what he should be doing. He told me that he had attempted to - and with the aid of a small screwdriver used as a lever - succeeded in pulling the ROM socket off the PCB, complete with attached surface mount tracks. I told him that this in my view would not be a practicable repair operation on a multilayered board such as the A1.

I am sorry that you have had this bad luck, and can understand your frustration, but I believe that we have given you good customer service over the period of ownership of your AmigaOne. I think that it is grossly unfair for you to imply otherwise, or to imply that your lack of satisfaction with the system you purchased is caused by anything other than your own lack of ability with Linux. As others on this list have pointed out we clearly state on our website that 'if you want a switch-on-and-go system the earlybird offer is not for you'.

Alan M Redhouse

looks like pretty damn good customer service from the side of eyetech, they could not have done more.
I really believe this is the customers fault.