Microsoft fined $613million by EU Court

[TeeOneKay]

Paul_Gadd wrote:
I see nothing wrong with giving the user a OS what comes with stuff they want as standard. every OS imo should contain a web browser, email client, media player etc. if these companies do not like it then tough. it is up to them to make a better product to catch the users eye instead of attacking a company out of pure jealousy and greed.

If the user has to mess around downloading software you would expect to come with the OS they are gonna be pissed off (i would be). a happy user is a paying user :-)

Dude.... you truly scare me...

I for one do *not* want  a system that comes blogged down with tons of crap I'd *never* use if it wasn't there in the first place.

It's like with supermarkets nowadays. You get tied up to a store bcos when you shop *(s)mart* you get points and rebates for this or that and end up paying for stuff you never wanted and blowing more cash than you would have done in that expensive local grossery store. That store that hardly has any customers left due to the superstores just outside town which means they can no longer support the local farmers and producers so they have to shut down and end up dieing poor and lonely with the local producers soon to follow.

"a happy user is a paying user"
I totally lack words... Or no, actually I don't. I think you've totally messed that one up.
Why is the user happy in the first place? Probably bcos he/she bought a piece of SW that luckily enough did what he/she wanted it to. Your view seems to be "Hey, I'm in a good mood today. I'm gonna buy some useless junk to celebrate that!" IMO your sentence should really say "a paying user deserves to be a happy user"
Now, in the windows situation it's not exactly like that.
Yes, you get some programs that does the basic stuff you might wanna do at the exact moment you boot up your 'puter. It's not exactly how you want it, but it's not bad enough for you to go and buy something else. And therein  lies the problem IMO. People, like in the supermarket scenario, end up using stuff they're not really happy with, but it seems much cheaper and more convenient so they'll never try anything else.
In fact, I think the situation we have is bloody lethal to society. What we have is a software based dictature and the world is more software each and every day.

Note 1. I can't belive I engaged in this.
Note 2. The above of course only reflects my personal opinion. Some people treat their own opinion as fact and I just wanna spell it out that I'm not like that.
Note 3. Good night

[TeeOneKay]

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Good points.


Damnit, the more I think about it the more it feels like we're all crayfish lying in water in a slowly heating saucepan.

[TeeOneKay]

"Then demand a cheaper, stripped-down version of Windows."

If I wanted to use windows I would do something like that yes.

"So long as consumers keep quiet and keep paying, they get what they deserve."

I totally agree, it's just that *I* don't wanna have it that way but I can't escape it bcos majority has the upper hand.

"Do you really think if IBM or Amiga was in charge, things would be different?"

Yes I do. Are you saying all the presidents U.S.has had have been the same?

"Had a look at Apple, lately?"

Yes I have. I don't like it.

"Then don't sign up for a rewards card. Refuse to use the automatic checkout with the touchscreens. Pay cash instead of credit so they can't track what you buy and give you coupons for crap. DON'T buy the crap! Don't buy gift certificates or prepaid credit cards... etc, etc..."

You're describing my way of life pretty well here.

"People are just too damn lazy to boycott, and prefer safety to freedom."

Thanks for repeating what I said in slightly different words.

"No wonder American business is all going overseas, and Bush and his cronies are using terrorism as a tool to bleed the public dry. People better shape up before the US turns into the next Rome."

I wouldn't know anything business in the U.S., but get one thing straight: U.S. is hardly anywhere near the power of Rome.