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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« on: December 16, 2010, 08:45:15 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;599271
Coffee House doesn't show up on main page anymore so it no longer serves us hot topics. Any forum that doesn't show on the main page is basically dead to the causal visitor.

Mor often than not I'll quickly check the front page on my iPhone between meetings and see if anything grabs my fancy.
Humorously (not the fake BS word "funnily" you ill-bret brits!), the Coffee House forums -- also known as the "DMZ" were created way back when because of people bitching and whining about off-topic posts on the forums.

So, it's a case of can't win.  Those who want the CH forums don't use them, and those who don't use them bitch about off-topic posts.

The major problem I think -- now as an outsider -- is that everyone takes themselves too damned seriously for what is -- in no uncertain terms -- a hobby for what is now widely considered a "toy computer".

If everyone would just chill out and relax, we'd all have a much better time of it.

Wayne
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 01:58:28 AM »
Quote from: adz;599359
Pass the defibrillator...
Dammit Jim!  I'm a... well.. ummm. innocent bystander, not a doctor!
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 02:02:12 AM »
Quote from: kickstart;599364
Ban me or whatever but the last 5 post are ridiculous.
Why would they ban you for being rediculous?

(honestly, why would you care?  If you can't have fun with your hobby, why not find a fun hobby instead?)
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 02:07:22 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;599367
Ban you for what, exactly? Look, it isn't your fault that you don't share our odd sense of humour.

WaaaLaaa.  Bingo.. That's what happened to "the real" Amiga community (just so's we're on topic).  Somewhere along the line, we lost our sense of humor and it stopped being fun.

Somewhere along the line, about 2005 or so, it started being about red versus blue, this versus that, spy versus spy. Versus, versus, versus.

I'm not suggesting that we sink things to Moobunny level of banality, but for God's sake, learn to laugh again people.  THEN we can get back to enjoying our odd-duck, lame-ass hobby again..

Sheesh..

Wayne
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 02:08:49 AM »
Quote from: adz;599368
Dammit...we lost him...
Umm.. found him.  He's over here.  

We didn't know.  We just thought he was the strange smell coming from the basement.

Cowbell!
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 05:28:59 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;599382
Problem?
Idea!

Let's ban all the moderators and site owners until such time as they learn to behave with the church-like demeanor DEMANDED by such a life-or-deathly subject as our own personal Jesus.  The one, the only, the omnipotent, ever-conquering, be-all, end-all, mil-spec Commodore Amiga computer.

Yeah, that'll fix everything.  :)

Wayne
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 02:26:55 PM »
Quote from: the_leander;599438
Man, when I grow up, I want to be able to put that much snark into a reply :roflmao:

Cheers Wayne for that, I'm still chuckling 5 minutes after reading it :D

Snark.  Snark, snark, snark.  SNARK!!

This was a test of the emergency snark system.  Should this have been an actual snark, you would have been informed how to respond to the snarking emergency.  We now return you to your previously scheduled thread.

:laughing:
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 02:29:52 PM »
Quote from: Boot_WB;599472
Goddamn right!

OOhhh.. Language sweetheart.  We don't need to go completely apeshit at this point... :)
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 10:55:14 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;599633
Its NOT dead! Damn, I don't want any of you guys near me if I get sick. you'll be tossing dirt on my face while I'm still breathing.
Hell, its not even coughing up blood!
There's three NG OS' based on AmigaOS.
New hardware and software is being released.
The only thing that's dead is Commodore.

I hate to burst your bubble, and I know we're talking potato, potato here, but any computer (or other system) without any hope whatsoever of a real commercial future is, in fact, dead.   Whether or not a machine is commercially viable is THE established means of determining whether or not a project is "alive" or "dead".  Any machine that sells to an extremely limited handful of hobbyists at extremely inflated prices for antiquated hardware (c'mon... The PPC is even dead-ended!) does not make it commercially viable.

Extremely similar examples;

  • The Sony Dreamcast.  Dead.
  • Original X-Box.  Dead.
  • Coleco Adam.  Dead.
  • Atari 400/800 platform.  Dead.
  • 3DO.  Dead.
  • The PPC.  Dead.
  • .. the list is endless.
Yes, the 25 year old device you play with daily may be functioning.   Yes.  You may be having fun with it.   Yes.  Hobbyists may be working to try and save the future with new hardware (note, even Hyperion are hobbyists), but the platform is, in fact, commercially and in 99% of all other respects, dead.

(It's also a "toy computer" if you want to go down that road.. :) )

There are a few which are still on life support, the C-64 for example and you may want to extend that same type status to the Amiga but the differences are that the 64 has current, LARGE, vibrant (non-bitchy) community and userbase willing to spend money on it, along with the fact that it has currently marketed devices like the "64 on a stick" that are accepted (and being purchased) by the public at large as opposed to just a handful of hobbyists with more money than sense.

Commercially speaking however, they're all dead.

That being said, before you get upset, you need to understand and accept that neither the death of the Commodore Amiga platform, or the fact that it is now relegated to "toy" -- aka hobby -- status make it any LESS fun to tinker with, but we shouldn't be delusional about the facts.

Narf!

Wayne
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 03:06:04 PM »
The delusional here truly scare me.  Unless -- I'm hoping -- it's just some sort of dusty brit humor...
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2010, 01:13:59 AM »
Quote from: hceline;599819
Well, according to these standards Linux and opensource generally died some 3-5 yrs ago :rtfm:  .
No sir.  Sorry.

"Linux and open source" by it's very definition are non-commercial products, meaning they have NEVER been developed or intended for making a profit.  The Amiga -- dead as it is -- was created as a commercial venture and failed, last in 1994.

I sense much denial in you young padawan..  :)

Wayne
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2010, 01:39:39 AM »
Quote from: runequester;599831
As far as amiga being dead... I ordered a brand new accelerator card, and there's stuff like minimig. Maybe its undead?

Tell you what.  Here's a test...

  • If you can walk into ANY PLACE *except* an Amiga-related meeting or a computer store and ask 25 people "what is an Amiga?"
  • AND get a 2/3 majority correct answer without prompting them in any way
  • THEN ask the right answers where you can buy one and you don't get a "I don't think they make them any more" answer from 1/2 of them,
THEN I'll agree that the Amiga as a platform isn't dead.

... but we're talking about two different things here.  Logistics versus emotion.

I don't care about it whatsoever, so for me, I'm strictly saying "dead" in a "commercial, I can't go into a real store anywhere on the planet and buy a NEW (not NOS) one" sense.  

I'm talking logistics.  You're talking emotions.  Two different things.

Sorry.  I don't want to offend anyone with my opinion.  

If hanging out banging away on a 25-year-old machine is your thing, I'm VERY cool with that.  I just don't share that hobby any more so I can't agree with you on this point.

Personally, I find dicking around with old computers to be extremely frustrating,  which is one reason I both sold the site, and -- way before that --  bought a Mac.  Even though I owned the site from 1994 through 2009, I think I sold my last owned Amiga 3000 UX in.. hmmm..  1997?

That being said, I digress.  I've ruined this perfectly off-topic thread by re-assuming the seriousness I wanted to so desperately shed off.

Let's put down our respective weapons and have a toast to what once was, and to everyone's health and happiness.  I think that we can all agree on that, and this is -- after all -- the holiday season.

Merry Christmas, which I say not to offend anyone, but because it's apparently now not-politically-correct to say any more.

Wayne
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2010, 01:54:28 AM »
Quote from: runequester;599837
And hell, Im a hardcore atheist and I wish people a merry f'ing christmas all the time so the PC brigade can bite me :)
I think the term is "militant atheist". :)

As for me, I find myself gravitating more and more towards "Apathist" (which is more to the core of D&D "true neutral" to put it in perspective).

There may be a God.  There may be many Gods.  There may not.  I don't care..  

:)

Drink up me heartees, yo' ho!
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Offline Wayne

Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2010, 01:58:25 AM »
Speaking of "funny as hell"...

Anyone catch Fleecy Moss' profile on Facebook?  Particularly the pictures of him in drag?  What a hoot.  If you don't believe me, go to FB and search for Fleecy Moss, then check out his photos.

Wayne

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