New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?

[Wayne]

I think you are lagging slightly behind current events, maybe :-)

The machine in question is is the AmigaOne X1000. All we know for sure is that it has a dual core PPC processor, possibly 64-bit (or 32-bit/PAE) as inferred from the presence of 4 DDR slots, 2 PCIe 16x slots (both run at half speed if each slot are populated), an XMOS "custom" chip (some sort of event-driven IO processor by the sound of it) and associated expansion slot and designed to run AmigaOS 4.x.

As for me, whether or not the machine ever exists or is seen "in the wild", it's a FAIL at the point where it is PPC.  Unless of course Motorola has invented a 4 core 3.0+ GigaHertz chip that no one on Earth has ever seen.

Sorry guys.  I know this ruffles all sorts of feathers and pisses off the fanboys, but even the linux guys know that the x86 chip (whether intel, amd, or whatever) is where it's at.  Hell, even Apple knows.  Seems the only ones who don't are the religious faithful holding on desperately to 10 year decaying technology.

Really want to impress me?  

Want to sell machines to people (aside from the devout fanboys)?  

Pull an Apple out of your hat and re-core AmigaOS around a Linux/BSD distro... EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO RUN IT ON CLOSED HARDWARE like Apple tries to do with their systems.

Sure, there are hackintoshes.  I own one (Vostro A90 netbook), but Amiga could easily resolve that just like Apple did when they got rid of Atom processor support in 10.6.2.  

Wayne

[Wayne]

Hi guys,

Seriously, all debate aside, it's about 15 years too late now for "Amiga" (not particularly AI) to make any real dent, or even difference in the computer world outside of the hobbyist market.

At this point, 2010, the market is flooded with other, real, mature platforms from the PC, to the Mac, to even Linux and PS3 boxes.  Put simply, even if someone had 100 billion dollars to put into development of a "new Amiga", there's simply no market for it to sell to.

Game machines?  Covered.
Video Editing boxes?  Covered.
Audio Editing boxes?  Covered.
Desktops? Covered.
Laptops?  Covered.
Netbooks / tablets?  Covered.
Set top boxes?  Covered.
Mobile services?  Covered.
Cell phones?  You got it... Covered...

I know you guys don't want to hear this.  I don't blame you, but the simple fact remains.  Even if someone were to come up with the one perfect idea for a "new Amiga", it might sell 500 boxes to hobbyists.  

Most of this crowd would simply sit around arguing how the "new Amiga" isn't in fact an Amiga at all and how a "real Amiga" is xyz123, etc..

I hope I'm wrong.  I hope someone here, rather than bitching about things will point out a commercially viable market that I've missed.  Maybe if someone can do that, the developers will take notice, but my bet's on me at this point.

I mean, it's great to have a hobby you enjoy, and if using the Amiga is yours then that's very cool too.  Just stop sitting here expecting some Godlike benefactor (even Amiga Inc or Genesi) to pop up and "save" it.

10 years ago, Amiga Inc bought (or perhaps licensed) a name.  Just a name.  It's clear that they had absolutely no vision or ideas as to what to do with their shiny new toy, but it's equally obvious that having just enough money to buy a name wasn't nearly enough to do anything with it.

In the end, we have our so-called "classic" boxes and the few willing to invest the thousands of dollars into it have either AmigaOne or Genesi boxes, but that's it..  No more, no less, and a "new" antiquated PPC box isn't going to be a game changer for anyone.

If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself honestly...  "If I won 50 million dollars in the lottery today, would I invest it in the Amiga [as a brand]?"

Wayne

[Wayne]

You wonder about someone calling a PentiumD modern, but that aside an Atom N270 draws 2.5 Watts on the flip side my Dual Quad Core (8 cores total) Mac Pro will probably draw 50 watts idle and 250 when it's pushed, but which machine would you prefer to do 3D animation on?

That's the problem I see with a lot of the guys around here.  We're all so used to "making due" with 60 Mhz 030's and such that most have no idea what "modern" really is, and is really capable of.  

The fact that my iPhone has 2x the speed and easily 1/10th the power draw of the FASTEST PPC-driven classic Amiga *should* say something about the lack of perspective being shown by PPC faithful when it comes to their defense of the dead.

Wayne