Several PPC cards on Amibench

[Morley]

-double post-

[Morley]

I must say, I sincereley hope this deal has an happy ending, even if that means I missed an oppurtinity to buy a nicely priced Cyberstorm :-)
If somebody is succesful in pulling a fraud this size on such a small community, something is wrong. I never thought crooks this size existed in the Amiga community.

Good luck to all of you who have paid money for the PPC boards, looks like you're going to need it now...

[Morley]

Guys, listen...

The names Bernd Binder, Roland Geiger, Kralle, Tibor Toth and whatever else you have heard, they could all have been used by someone completely else. (BTW, I did a quick look and there are something like 10 different Kralles on ebay...)
Go check with your bank, if you sent money via money-transfer, to get the name of the recipient. Or pester Paypal to give you the account-number of the recipient and check that out. Bear in mind though that non-us Paypal accounts don't have verified addresses. At least mine isn't. Then maybe you'll find that the account is closed and whatever he is named has left with the money, or maybe not. Most low-lifes don't care if they leave their real name though, as they most likely have spent the cash before they get caught.
Just make sure you are chasing the right guy before calling in the cavalry.

Best of luck to you all, I hope the PPC cards turn up or you get your money back.

[Morley]

x56h34 wrote:
@All

More updates. I received another e-mail from Bernd. Here's what is says:

I sent today the receipt from the German post for the ppc board to you (in an
registered letter) - I don't know if you got the board yet, but I sent it to
all buyers, because some didn't get it yet. It's easier to me in this way,
because I'm all the time on the road (trucker).
If you didn't get it, go please with that receipt to your post and the will
look what's happened.

What do you guys make of this? Shouldn't HE be the one going to the post office with the receipt and checking out why the package never showed up? Anyway, let's see if I receive that receipt.

Ah...clever jackass! His next move will of course be that he can't go to check at the postoffice himself, 'cause he sent the receipt to you. And thus he can claim to have sent both the cards and the receipt, so he can haul time even more. My personal opinion.

If he wasn't hiding anything, why didn't he give you the tracking nr. or a photo/scan of the receipt?

[Morley]

preacher wrote:
lo all!

Recieved an email from 'Tibor' a minute ago.
He asks me to confirm my address and he will send
the bill(?) and the id number of the parcel.

Let's see what happens...

Guys, put on the brakes. If he "sends" the receipt to you he can easily claim both have been lost in mail. I would have preferred a scan...

[Morley]

Anyway, I sent a copy or the proof of posting and a few weeks later, the Royal Mail came up trumps. It had been 'held up' by customs people in South America.

As the sender is inside the EU and the recipient also is, your parcels really can't be stuck in customs.

Either:
1. "Bernd" is up to some monkey business, and haven't aquired the boards yet
2. You've been scammed, and "Bernd" is hauling time before the police runs down his door.
3. Deutsche Post is the worst post-company around.

[Morley]

Flowman wrote:
Cuz if u send the card with regular mail.. u dont get any tracking nr.. its like u send a regular mail in the mail box.. do u get any tracking nr nope dont think so

Then he can't have e receipt either...or maybe one for 50€ worth of stamps... :-(

[Morley]

Uh-oh. Time to get paranoid :-(

[Morley]

Hmmm...it seems that Binder was playing dumb in your conversation. His adress, e-mail address, name, etc. make him the perfect match. All that info is essentially the same in the PayPal account and Lemmink's newsletter, so it's 100% got to be him. It's impossible for someone to register a PayPal account and fake the address/banking info in it, and still be able to withdraw the money from the online credit amount. He is a liar.

Well, I don't think this necesarily is true. Non-US paypal accounts normally have unverified adresses (and names?) I think you can have a paypal-account and use somebody else's credit-card for withdrawal and payment.

Anyway, it looks like it is time to call the cops'

[Morley]

AccyD wrote:

Morley wrote:

Non-US paypal accounts normally have unverified adresses (and names?)

I live in the Uk and my address is verified - unless this is a new thing, as I've only joined in 2004??

Mine isn't...I joined now in 2004 also...heh :-?

But then I live in Norway, dunno if this matters

[Morley]

I can't remember how to set it up exactly but if you try to send a payment using a c/card it will ask you to verify it by debiting your account for a few dollars quoting a particular reference number. Quote the number in Paypal and your account will become verified - or that''s at least how I remember it.

I did this, and I am still unverified. Looks like Paypal don't know what they are doing, or...

[Morley]

What's the point of paying extra for tracking when the track is lost once the mail leaves our shores! It seems as far as Royal Mail is concerned, it's out of their hands. So why do they charge so much?

You can probably use your tracking nr. on deutsche post's homepage. The packages coming from abroad entering Norway always keeps the original tracking-nr., you just have to use it with the respective offices postal service. (In this example Norway's.)

Most probably the german post works the same way. Find their site and punch in the tr.nr.(from GB or from wherever you sent it), and see if you get anything useful. It usually works for me.

[Morley]

@JAX and everybody else

Why not just call the police in Albstadt and ask if they have got the letter and have taken some steps? Some of you that have been frauded must speak german, and if you don't, somebody at the police is sure to speak english.

Remember, -Germany is definetly _not_ a banana republic, I would be very surprised if mr. Binder or whoever he is gets away with this in the end. Maybe he has spent all your money and it can't be recovered, but at least he'll get busted.

[Morley]

Acill wrote:

Morley wrote:

Remember, -Germany is definetly _not_ a banana republic, I would be very surprised if mr. Binder or whoever he is gets away with this in the end. Maybe he has spent all your money and it can't be recovered, but at least he'll get busted.

Dont be so quick to assume. DCE has got away with the exact same thing, only in reverse. They took cards and never fixed them and kept them all. The numbers they have is far more money then these 10 cards you all are talking of. I know of 25 from Software Hut here in the US alone. I sent a letter out myself to the local police in DCE's town and got nothing back other then asking for more information, and then nothing again.

Uargh...why is it always really big bad guys that always get away? The german police never forget about my speeding-tickets...two more and I'll loose my permit to drive in Germany  :lol:

[Morley]

CU_AMiGA wrote:
So we are just going to sit back and let this geezer get away with this mass murder?! :pissed:

Don't sit back. Call the police in Albstadt every day and ask them what is happening. Pester them. Every bl**dy day.

If you act like you don't care, (ie. send a letter and then  just do the waiting game), they're gonna put the case in a drawer and forget about it. You _have_ to be annoying in order to get them to work on a headache
 like this case.